Why do we accept it as normal for recruiters using an army of compensation directors and market research to negotiate against junior creatives with 10 year old laptops?

Do recruiters think this is the best method? I’m lucky to be at a point in my career where i have some choice in which recruiters/agencies i want to work with and I can tell you 100% of the time i go with whoever offers clarity. I simply don’t bother with the recruiters who are vague / refuse to be transparent about budgets.

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I’m confused. They’re offering 10 year old laptops as part of the negotiations?

You: it’s time to pay the piper.
Me: who am I paying?

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