Why does KPMG have such a bad reputation amongst the Big 4?

likesmartfunny
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at
Highlighted IconHIGHLIGHTED

I’d love to know. Don’t think Deloitte has great talent across the board. We do have some very good Partners who literally shape the industry. Not impressed with everyone, but there are few that make you go wow. YMMV

likesmart

Historically, probably a combination of them being the smallest and the only one not headquartered in London. Beyond that, it's pretty much just a meme just like Deloitte and Harvard. At the end of the day, they aren't any worse than the rest of B4 and most of the ribbing is good natured.

like
Recent IconRecent

People just like to talk. Offer them a big salary bump to KPMG and see how many suddenly forget the reputation

likehelpfulfunny

I don’t think there’s much rhyme or reason behind it; just younger sibling syndrome.

likesmartfunny

I think it mostly has to do with them being the smallest and the names are hard to pronounce. It’s like the little brother. We can pick on them, but most people put us all in the same boat.

like

Diners Club

funnylike

KPMG is the best of the B4 from my experience, has the best people and work life balance but mediocre pay.

like

Is nobody going to point out the fact that KPMG has less than half the revenue of the others?

likehelpful

What’s your source?

Same reason why there’s hate for any firm not considered the Big 4. KPMG just gets #4 in this lineup and no one likes the person who gets chosen last. I think there are so many variables on what makes a good firm - from the practice you work in to how well you’re paid, etc. I know many people at places like PwC and Deloitte and some of them get crappy pay with horrible projects/coworkers.

like

From what I can tell 2 main reasons 1) smallest of the B4 (but still huge gap between KPMG and the 5th accounting firm) 2) the golf memes

Our big brothers and sisters just like to clown us 🤡 🥺 all in fun from what I know.

We’re all just programmed (from college) to pay attention to big 4 hierarchy. In reality, there’s very little difference. In all four, there are mediocre people and there are superstars. Also, the firm technology may differ a little, but nothing significant. As someone that’s also worked in the middle market, middle market firms are often overlooked. There are so many smart people in those firms that it’s ridiculous.

Wait.....what? We do? 😂😂

KPMG is the premier in Financial Services. You will learn a great deal and your experience depends on your ability to do the work, learn your job/industry and obtain sponsorship with clients and partners.

Happy to hear this from someone from Wilmont

Lack of leadership. KPMG follows D. Whatever changes D makes you will see KPMG doing that but they wait 2 to 3 years.

Related Posts

Honestly, what do people who work at the big 4 think of RSM?

like

I am applying for an MBA program and have only worked in audit at B4. How did you go about asking for letters of rec? I'm scared to ask my manager because she will then know I'm quitting. (Cont.)

like

Working at a B4 and trying to get a return offer in a different group from the one I’m interning with. I’ve been networking crazy, but the recruiter says she has to see if my profile matches first. How can I take matters into my own hands to pivot?

like

QQQ is now restricted due to taking a job in B4. What are some good alternatives?

like

Do you still need your CPA before you can be a senior at a Big 4?

Made a handy guide based on my experience dating Big 4 on and off of 🐠bowl. You’re welcome ladies 💁🏻‍♀️

Post Photo
likefunnyhelpfulupliftingsmart

After a year in big 4 and being beyond miserable and unhappy with my client and the firm, I have a great opportunity with CLA thanks to a sr mgr there. Thoughts on dipping for CLA?

like

How much could I get as an experienced senior at one of the Big 4 in the DC area?

like

How would you rank the Big 4 in consulting/advisory for financial services?

likehelpful

Any advice for applying for a new position while currently in one? (Esp. being in one of the big 4 holding co where talent portal will flag you applying for positions)

like

Is a switch from IT Audit (b4) to Product Management (industry) role a good move? C1. Significant pay bump as well.

like

If you’ve gone from big 4 to a tier 2 firm, what was your experience like?

likehelpful

Only absurd responses. The big 4 assemble in a parking lot. It’s a fight to the death. Who places where and why?

Post Photo
likefunny

3rd year MD in talks for P next year. Rose through the firm young and quick, so feel relative base comp low at $325K. $5-$6M in sales every year for last 3-4. Stay and take P or move to another B4 and get a bump? Under 40 / NY FS / Advisory. Thanks!

like

Lateral move from Big 4 strategy entry level to smaller PE firm consulting branch working with portfolio companies. Would require moving within the same state, comp is about the same. Is this move worth it?

like

I need career advice. I left B4 a few weeks ago for a seemingly perfect consulting position but it is not at all what it seemed. Was expecting analytical role with the great managers I interviewed with, but as it turns out I’ve been placed on a brand new team with a micromanager and my job duties are to take notes during client meetings. Help! Do I reach back out to recruiters? I miss excel

like

Has anyone found a non demanding but rewarding position in accounting or finance that pays well? Yet allows you to have flexibility with kids events and outside of work activities?? Maybe I’m dreaming thinking this is an option lol I want to start a family but don’t think this is feasible with the amount of hours I currently work. My husband is a manager working in big 4 so he can’t help around much during busy season

like

When applying for jobs after Big 4 do they ask to see your reviews?

like

Have a new opportunity. Promotion. Way more $. Another big 4. Remind me that it’s ok to leave my team. I do love them, not all but most. But I feel like I need to do this for me. Ugh sucks so badly.

like

Does big 4 file you GC in EB1 if you join as senior manager ?

Additional Posts

Next week is the 1st week on my project (it's an 8 hr flight). I have a big family event on Wednesday night that I want to take 1 day PTO for. Would it be unreasonable to ask to work remote 1st wk?

let's discuss how to plan your resources in this covid environment

like

Where can I find the most accurate pto balance at PwC? Me@pwc has a different number that myMetrics. Not sure what the most accurate count is.

like

Looking at exiting into a startup working in defense, does anybody know about Anduril’s culture/wlb?

like

Hi friends. In the happiest 5 year relationship ever. Then suddenly my boyfriend breaks and held my prior anxiety and panic attacks against me. He yelled at me in a way I’ve never experienced. He’s always been so comforting to me (and I have been to him when he’s upset). I know he’s close to proposing. I’m lying here in bed wondering if this relationship can be salvaged after what was said. I don’t feel like he can accept me when my mental health is struggling. How do I move past it?

like

Real estate lawyers: is title insurance a scam? Why don't we adopt IA's system of issuing title opinions instead?

like

TGIF!!! What project are we not going to think about this weekend?

likeuplifting

I know everyone has worked on “burn and churn” accounts but when did you know it was time to leave/ how did you leave? Backstory: since the get go we have had a long sprints, a terrible account manager, and a cd who won’t support us or advocate for us. We are burnt out but when we raise our hand we just get yelled at and told everyone is dealing with this. How do we escape?

like

Are H1b workers allowed to file for unemployment? Who knows this please?🙏🏾

likefunny

I’m just starting in a consulting role out of undergrad but want to keep my computer science skills up should I decide to exit to a technical role. Does anyone have recommendations on how to do so?

like

Evaluating whether to take up an Investment Strategy role with a unicorn wealth-tech firm. Does this pigeon-hole me into wealth-tech? Are there paths from Investment Strategy to other fin tech or investing or Corporate strategy roles?

like

I have an interview for social media strategist with a rising DTC startup in NYC. I’m feeling imposter syndrome, since I’ve never marketed such a big, hip company. What books can I read or courses can I take to come into the interview solid and prepared? Most of my marketing theory is based on Seth Godin books and reading psychology.

like

Android 🐠 - recs on the best smart watch (time, activity tracker, and checking texts, etc)? Bonus if it looks sleek. I know the Apple watch is the best but buying a gift for an Android loyalist.

like

Hey guys.. Is chase private banking and jp Morgan investment banking good way for managing my investments? I'm looking to build a portfolio of mutual funds with 2-3 years horizon

like

if you take short term disability before your mat leave, does that cut into your mat leave time?

like

Hi All, I am Tableau developer with 5+ years of experience in IT industry, please let me know if any referral opening for the same. TIA

like

What’s the typical raise % from A to S1 at Big 4?

like

International flight with AA: no wifi, no personal screen, one small screen in center of aircraft showing a shitty old movie! Way to go American!

like

Did anybody get the stamping done(existing visa) recently from anywhere in India?

like

Anyone worked at Samsung coming from consulting? How’s their culture?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
Download Fishbowl to see what others are saying
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the Fishbowl app

Get realtime notifications and see
what's happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.