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Why does no one talk about working for Oracle? I mean they have been around for a while and I'm pretty sure they make bank. Why aren't they considered in the same league as companies like Facebook?

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I currently have been working for Oracle for 7 years… they promote a work life balance, diversity and giving back to the community. I haven’t experienced anything overtly bad.. I’ve had A (1) bad manager…. I’ve been given raised growth opportunities and the benefits are fantastic! I’m sure everyone’s experience is not the same… however I will say you get from Oracle what you put into it. If your lazy and don’t do the work then I imagine you will not be happy… just my two cents….

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13 years, ex Oracle. Its an outstanding company to work for

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Oracle makes Facebook look like an ethical company

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Oracle's unsavory at times, as is anything legal heavy, and god knows they're legal heavy. But it's not unethical. The company's customer dealings just have more red tape than a CCP meeting, and normal folks understandably get confused and feel bamboozled. But enterprises who buy complicated products from Oracle aren't us Jane Does. They have their own IT and legal, and should in theory be able to handle a long contract and a complicated app deployment. Facebook on the other hand is downright reckless. They have a noble mission and highly effective hacker culture that half of Oracle can't hold a candle to, but Facebook could (and has) done an astronomic amount of damage to society. Ignoring all the "smalltime" cyberbullying stuff with kids, they've literally created an international scale psyops tool (knowing it was being used that way). On other occasions, they've even cost people lives--despite these things being flagged internally from the bottom up. It's an outright dangerous company. I can't blame most of its employees of course, many are strong advocates of doing the right thing, people I'd love to work with. But as the things this company misses go, Facebook is about as ethical as Palantir would be if they ignored their reps selling to dictatorships.

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Oracle is the worst company to work for. For these reasons: 1. They pit their employees against each other. 2. The management is based on politics and those rising in management do not have experience or EQ to do so. 3. The managers like to micromanage their employees and focus on being the “boss” vs a “leader” or someone that could help them succeed. 4. Management does not care how they get talent, if they have to lie about the role to get you in the door, they will. 5. Oracle has no true values. It is everyone for themselves. 6. Oracle sales help is not located in the US- they are hard to reach and has been known to stalk, harass and mess up current deals for customers. 7. VP levels treat everyone as a number. At Oracle you are replaceable no matter what and they let you know it. 8. Oracle does not care if you get paid. If you leave before the actual payout date of the end of the year- they will not pay you commission. They also won’t pay you you’re full OTE. They will purposely give you your comp plan “too late” so you cannot achieve it. They make it really complicated and hard to reach your goals. 9. Their finance team is trained to mess up your comp plans. They also add 7-10 pages of legal garb so you can’t fight back (sue). 10. Lastly, here is a real quote from a director in the organization, “Oracle always makes good on their payments to you. Whether that is a year from now or ten years. As long as you’re still working here, they will pay you.” Run.

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I have been working at Oracle for the last 1.5 years and I can say that you have perfectly summarised Oracle. Although I don't know about sales team but some of the points you mentioned are spot on for the tech team. Micromanagement, scavenger hunt between teams to snatch a project from others, upper management politics, no hikes for years, etc. I have seen it all. Managers are too lazy to upgrade themselves with current market skills and most of the work is Ops heavy rather than development. Also I have seen VPs outsourcing talent in order to hire cheap talent and not expanding teams for years so that they get the lion's share of money alloted for their org. I have also heard that few years back one of the Managers downgraded themselves in order to avoid upper management firing and then upgrading themselves back to their position. All of this truly happens only at Oracle and I was not at all surprised to see this coming from Gartner which is one of Oracle's biggest customers.

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I think there are more tenured people at Oracle that have been doing things the way they have for quite some time now. They can be a little old fashioned in terms of perks, but overall it's just a more straight forward company. It's still a sought after company to work for, it just doens't get as much media attention as companies like Facebook

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Oracle is still a big player so I wouldn't call them dinosaurs tbh

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From an engineering standpoint, the talent and pay at Facebook blows Oracle out of the water every time. Oracle is a dinosaur at this point — nothing shiny left, just a fairly stable older company.

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Interesting. Do you know people who have already worked there?

Oracle is what Salesforce will be soon.

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Salesforce is going to be more like IBM than Oracle I think, especially the consulting part.

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Check out their Glassdoor reviews and that will give you a hint. I can provide additional insight if helpful, just reach out to me on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/alanjstein

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Oracle is a huge sales-driven organizatuon that dedicates massive resources to attaining and keeping customers. The managers that oversea Support have technical skills that are two decades out-of-date. They are coasting toward retirement while support engineers suffer inhumane workloads, mental breakdowns and no training. No one - particular those on work visas - wants to rock the boat.

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People do - I heard Oracle OCI makes bank, but I haven’t heard anything about the other parts of Oracle. That said I don’t think their culture is as good.

Yes, you are right. OCI is currently the most money making org in Oracle. Its compensation is comparable to FAANG companies. On the other hand, non-OCI orgs in Oracle work on products which have been there for years and are mostly outdated. So obviously compensation in those orgs is low and as far as I know most of the work is Ops heavy and it literally make many incompetent because they can't learn or work on new technologies.

I have no clue what they do honestly. I was a bit shocked when a recruiter reached out to me for a college internship when I graduated 2018 🥴 I feel like they didn’t read my resume nor portfolio.

That sounds like a bad recruiter in general, heard the same for other companies. Sometimes they just widen their net and hope they get a bite even if it’s not relevant.

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Oracle is not the place for everyone. If your starting in your career field, oracle is not the place for you. They will low ball you and keep you there. Oracle is notorious for not promoting their employees, to the point where you need to leave the company to get a higher salary for a few years then return back to oracle to negotiate a higher pay.

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