Why is there not an creative Union? I mean honestly. We’ve got SAG, DGA, Teamsters, Editors Guild, Writers Guild, WGA, Agents and producers even have a Union! So why do creators who actually manufacture the product of an agency not make real money off our ideas.

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I’ve actually been a member of a labor union. If you want to work with people who do the very least amount they can do with no possibility of getting fired then it’s great. If you have ambition or value hard work I wouldn’t recommend. A chunk of your paycheck goes to dues as well.

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Owner 1 - that is probably true for some unions but the industry already has a significant diversity problem. If anything, a union at diverse shops could give people a voice and bargaining power not available to them before. Also a union could help establish pay parity. It will do far far far more good than harm. The current system is not designed to benefit most folks equally anyway.

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First thing as a Union we need to purchase a huge blow up Rat!! Second thing we need to find people to keep the air in the rat & sit on old lawn chairs but it must be done in 6 hour shifts. Third we need signs made that say (this is where it might get tricky a creative team will have numourus meetings on what the signs will say) for the people sitting on the lawn chairs keeping air in the huge rat!

Union dues will cover all the expenses for this.

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And then SAG sues you because they want a scale actor playing the rat

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Too many people who want jobs and too little jobs? You try to unionize and then you’ll just get replaced by a scab.

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I wonder how we could discourage scabs. Shame them by name?

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Because in the 80s when creatives should have formed a union they were too drunk

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Unfortunately, that is true.

I would look at it more like SAG. Something with a Standard Rate Scale that you can double or triple given your talent. A path to royalties for major campaigns. Help with contract negotiations ect.

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I agree with this so much.

The fact that A different agency and different creatives are remaking the classic Miller High Life campaign, with the same director, and voice over talent is enough evidence to warrant royalties. (Not to mention FIG is also using the same campaign and director but for like Sherwin Williams paint)

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I would love to have one

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Growing up working for the grocery biz, I was a member of a mandatory union. Unions promote laziness and mediocrity. Who wants those qualities driving creative ideas? I for sure do not.

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That’s expected at higher levels. Imagine the people who are at the ground floor, who do all of the grunt work, just grind to a halt.

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Count me in.

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Now’s the time to do it. Agencies have already laid off all they can. The few people left have more leverage than they realize. Recruiters are so inept, you think they can really replace EVERYONE in a creative department at the same time?

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We have to build one. Biggest issue is how spread out the industry is. If we all lived/worked in one town then it would happen.

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There’s the AIGA and the GAG?

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AIGA and GAG are professional associations not unions.

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There is. I was part of it to get the health insurance when I was freelance.

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Uneducated on this but wouldn’t union dues be added strain as most agency jobs (FT) have pretty decent benefits? I’ve worked in SF, Chicago, NY, and Boston.

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Because good luck getting hired at any publicly-traded ad agency. It would be better if we could just squeeze out recruiters.

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But there’s more benefits to unions beyond just hiring and salaries.

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I mean real talk here, why would I want to help anyone that’s not as good as I am? If I’m better than others, why would I want to be a part of something that brings weaker creatives up to a new level? Don’t get me wrong, I will mentor those for whom I see as having potential but as for my own job security, I’m looking out for me, myself and I.

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Creative union would be great but a general union for as folks would be excellent. We need collective bargaining with management. It would go such a long way in negotiating better pay, working hours, potential severance and other benefits. I work at a WPP agency and I think everyone working there would benefit from having a collective bargain apparatus (a Union) to get a seat at the table with management. Too many business decisions are made without input from most of the staff. Management can go about making bad decisions with impunity, which often loses clients and costs people their jobs. We’re basically treated like glorified freelancers. I’d hope a union can change that.

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AGA, maybe?

Freelancers Union

but is it really a union?

thanks for the clarification!

I’d join. Freelancers union is one example of creatives trying to pool ourselves together for things like insurance.

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