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Why Republicans are so obsessed with Trump? As a moderate, I think Romney type conservatives are much more appealing than Trump but seems like Trump is still dominant in the party.

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Republicans win about half of elections. We have, since the 50s, often held the presidency, the house, the senate, the supreme court. And yet the country is a far more progressive place than it was then. Some of these ways are uncontroversial - republicans largely supported civil rights in the 60s - but unmistakably cultural norms and trends, dominant ideas about race and gender, what you are and arent likely to be fired for, and basic aspects of policy (the size of government and scope of regulation) have marched dramatically left.

The right is defined by the question "if we win half the time in elections why are we losing?"

My answer to this would be complicated but a lot of the right coalesced onto the view it was because our politicians dont fight. That they get to DC and get DC friends and like the press coverage and the speaking gigs, so when the left leaning press calls them names it spooks them, and they pull their punches to avoid anchors and donors and neighbors who vote democrat thinking ill of them. So they dont trust their career politicians. And Trump, they think, does not seem to care about that. That's a huge plus for him.

Now would republicans follow trump off a cliff? No, his endorsements arent even that impactful. But hes someone most members of the party trust to fight, and thats a trust in short supply on my side.

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Guess that depends on what you mean by "sides."

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Only ones who seem obsessed with him at the moment are Democrats making every other post about him. The fear is palpable.

Might want to focus on who’s replacing Biden instead. Just a thought.

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SM1 - yeah, you dips elected Trump into office (despite everything), nominated him AGAIN in 2020 (despite everything), stormed the damn Capitol when he lost (despite everything), and, by most accounts, appear poised to nominate and vote for him again in 2024 (despite everything).

But yeah, Dems just totally obsessed. 🙄

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The short answer is: because it's an authoritarian cult.

The party ran without a real platform in 2020 and literally approved a platform to support "Trump's America's First Agenda." They let Trump eat the party and they have no identity without him, though plenty of candidates are attempting to copy Trumpism without needing Trump.

Tens of millions of people in the country walked the plank into an ocean of stupidity -- defined by Trump's never-ending stream of absolute bullshit -- and even after he tried to steal election he obviously lost legitimately, they can't admit they're wrong. Once in a cult, protecting the cult leader is a matter of survival -- their identity crumbles otherwise. Acknowledging reality is no longer an option, so the Trump worship will continue.

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18 months and libs still can’t stop talking about Trump. Man lives rent free in their heads.

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SM1 is taking Ls in this thread with his cringe attempts at “trolling the libs”

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Everyone is obsessed with trump, because he’s like a train wreck that you can’t look away from. And he brings that out of everyone he interacts with as well.

And Romney didn’t win.

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^And the response rotation continues. Life is more efficient w CTL-V.

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Dems post way more about trump than republicans do.

If you’re asking why the hillbillies revere him it’s because they see a foul mouth guy who says what’s on his mind and is generally rejected by the elite class, and basically made a campaign of waging war against them. He’s basically what all those people would be if their dad built a $250m real estate business and gave it to them.

It’s like asking why those same people like John Daly or Kid Rock

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I'll agree media keeps him relevant for sure. I'm far left of the Dems on basically everything, but know enough that are firmly in the Dem camp to know that Trump not existing would be just fine in their opinions.

At some point, the party that keeps giving him oxygen needs to own it. That was years ago, and definitely after Jan 6, but yall some bitches, so here we are.

Congressional districts are hopelessly gerrymandered. Which means they are designed to keep the incumbent party in power. When this happens, the party rewards the primary candidate who is the most extreme. Because the district is not competitive, the opposing party’s candidate doesn’t stand a chance. So you end up with. House of Representatives filled with extremists who will be punished/primaried out of a job if they concede even the smallest point to the other party. Fox news picks up on this and it becomes a vicious cycle of the news reacting to the extremists and the extremists playing to their base on Fox. Trump is a symptom of this dysfunction, not the cause. This is not how our democracy is supposed to work.

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Timely article on this. It’s an opinion piece, which I’m usually skeptical of and don’t read, but does a good job of presenting it from both sides.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3505157-gerrymandering-a-legal-form-of-vote-stealing-more-entrenched-now-than-ever/

Anyone who don’t understand the popularity of trump or le pen or Bolsonaro, is a manifestation of the problem. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying you are the problem, but saying the problem is that our societies globally are so severed to the point that different groups of ppl are not understanding each other. This happens when economy is stagnated and when upward mobility lags. Just like when cult was so popular back in the 70s.

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