Why take ft role when pay is so much lower than freelancing? Seeing CD salaries of around 200k, but as a freelancer im doing 300k with my daily rate. Am i missing something? are ppl sacrificing ton of $$ for job security?

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That is correct.
Employees make less.
Freelancers make more.

..they have to. freelancers pay for their own liability insurance, equipment, software, healthcare, office, self-employee taxes, ira’s, vacations, etc.

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THIS. Did it for a year. Hit a patch of nothing for four months. Hung it up.

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As a former freelancer I think everyone handles FL droughts differently. I went 5-6 months without finding work after humming along fine for years and freaked out. So I took a full-time job just before COVID hit. Oddly my stress level is lower now. I wasn’t into hustling for work and not knowing the future. I think everyone is built differently that way. I do miss the $$$ though.

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Yes it’s more work but it’s less “work.” I’m a GCD level but make more than a GCD without the meetings, pitching, traveling, responsibilities, and client bullshit—none of which I enjoy. Just do the work and get out.

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Yes. You are correct.
Freelancers make more because a) they are on the hook for their own health insurance, etc and b) there's no guarantee of another gig around the corner.
If you're lucky enough to stay busy during the downturns, that's great. Many aren't.

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The economy needs to improve...

300k as a senior designer? Did you win the election too?

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@AKQA location doesn’t matter anymore

There’s good and bad about both sides. I tend to go back and forth. 4 years FT, 4 years FL. As for job security, that’s an illusion. Doesn’t exist on either side. 401k matching and paid healthcare, especially with a family is a big plus for FT. I was paying $1600/month for insurance for my family as a freelancer. Right now as FT, it’s zero.

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Same. But thinking of jumping again.

You have to do the math. I made $60k more as a freelancer BUT I worked 24/7 because I was never guaranteed any of it would continue. Then there is vacation. As a freelancer I never took one hour of vacation. Same reason as above. Then there is health insurance. Freelancers have access to shitty and expensive health insurance with high deductibles. Let’s look at taxes. As a freelancer you pay your own social security but as an employee the company pays it. Then there is savings. You can save a much higher percentage of your salary with a 401K and more likely than not have it matched. Not to mention further lowering your tax burden. So I would calculate the pay cut you can take to move inside is one third less. So if you made $300k. Take $200 K. As for less work or less stress. Yeah. That’s a no. But at least you can take a day off and get paid for it.

definitely not 100k lol. seems exaggerated

I just took a FT role because Covid. The perks of freelancing (taking a month or two to travel on a whim) are non existent now for me. It's less $$ but TBH a lot less work too. When you are FT you are always there even when things are quiet. Will def go back to freelance eventually though.

Benefits? Pretty simple. You're not adding all the other shit with the salary.

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