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Hi fishes,
I am from EY India.
Completed two years. (Tech Consulting)
Want to move/shift to EY UK or Ireland, within same service line.
What's the best way to start and how to plan?
Any referrals?
Do I need to reach out to someone from UK/Ireland team? How does it work?
Please help me out with this.
Thanks in Advance! EY
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Senior attorneys at my firm say the same thing. There used to be more autonomy and actual “law” being practiced. Now it’s all about making sure your report was sent within 10 days and asking permission to do anything otherwise they won’t pay. Want us to work for free.
Problem is even the “good” ID attorneys don’t have too many places to go. It’s notoriously difficult to leave unless you’re starting your own firm or leaving the law entirely
After working at various ID firms over the years I personally have just noticed it getting worse and worse.
As a plaintiffs attorney who has worked with a number of ID attorneys, this explains some things. There is definitely more hostility and rigidity now than when I first started.
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All insurance defense isn’t the same. Carriers are breaking into almost every area that it’s hard to avoid having to deal with them (or with self insureds who consume legal services like carriers such as hospitals). This is true even at many very reputable and busy litigation firms. But some firms have figured out how to get around those guidelines and get exceptions to them and negotiate better rate structures/carve outs, etc. the more sophisticated the litigation is, and the better relationships you have, the easier that is to accomplish. Also helps to be at a big firm with a lot of offices.
Also if you know how to play their game and Bill correctly you’ll still get almost everything paid. But it’s a major pain in the ass for the younger attorneys and I can see why they absolutely hate it and don’t last. I know I did and still do sometimes. It’s taken me years to get used to this and I still complain about it sometimes and so do the senior partners that have been doing it before some of you and I were born.
We have to get better at pushing back as a profession or we are never going to develop any young lawyers into defense trial lawyers. Meanwhile the plaintiffs bar turns out an army of fresh killers every year.
I just started in 2021. The experience/training for a young attorney is probably unmatched—but I cannot imagine making it a forever career.
As an in-house ID litigation lawyer I highly recommend going in-house. Not having to bill your time removes 98% of the BS from this job.
I got into ID coming out of the DA’s office. The move made sense at the time. It turned out to be a huge mistake that I have been paying for ever since.
Over the years I slowly started to teach myself some other practice areas and then started picking up a case here and there in those areas. That built up more and more experience in the newer areas, which has led to more cases, and the cycle continues.
No. As long as there is a large supply of ID attorneys, insurance companies will always find attorneys willing to accept their crappy rates, billing cuts, and poor treatment. Until ID is so bad that the supply of ID attorneys is not there, it will continue to be undesirable.
No. Get out while you still can.
Can someone tell me what ID is? I'm new to this app and Googled but can't figure it out
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I completely agreed. Thanks for this comment.