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Word of advice to anyone interviewing or looking, negotiations start well before an offer is given; if you go through the whole process properly they'll show you an offer you can't refuse off the bat.

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Sure, let's start with where you want to end: they think you're the perfect match and put their best foot forward in the initial offer. Now we need to consider how to get there, you may believe you are the perfect match but how do you convince them that you are and that you're worth it? There's no precise formula but here goes: before you even step foot in their office exhaust all resources, read online, know the job, the company, call friends you have there, understand what the interviewers are and aren't looking for, is this what you want and will you be good at it? If you understand all of that its time to start making them like you, that's up to you, different strokes for different folks but you can make the game time calls there. Show you're worth it, remember it's very important that they like you so don't come out guns blazing talking a hot game before you get a chance to work with them, understand the balance between saying you're good at things and coming off as egotistical etc. Do point out things you think you'd be good at in the new role - "here's this skill I have from my old job and this is how it translates to the new job and I'll be a strong employee because I'm able to make that translation happen". Know their limitations, this is part of them liking you to an extent, you can't ask for them to do things they simply can't do like give you 20 weeks vacation, but you can ask why they can't (for more reasonable requests of course). Finally if they want you and are willing to go to bat for you to get you a good salary or bonus or whatever make them believe it's worth their time, effort, political capital etc. by showing them that if they do this they will get you. Now, you have to think of how to do this all along the way without sounding like you assume there's an offer, but sprinkle in these concepts along the way and when they come to the table with an offer it's probably going to be strong. Finally if you're happy with it don't negotiate just to negotiate, save that for a later date when your bonus sucks or something else happens.


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Thank you. Very thorough. What level are you at DB?


Was an analyst about a week or so ago, moving to another bank - promoted to VP. That's not all that common, but keep in mind the pay gradients overlap at almost all places.


Thank you. Can you expand on "going through the whole process properly" with specific advice?

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