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What in the actual hell
Aside from the spelling issue mentioned above, it seems to me that being clearly identifiable as a minority via the last name would be a major advantage in this day and age.
Chief
White women experience less bias than all other minorities and have more programs and social capital supporting them and yet they occupy a bigger space in DI initiatives and discussions. A white woman in the US is in a far better place than most minority men in terms of experiencing bias.
And btw the demographics that voted for trump in 2020 and 2016 show that white women don’t care about racism as much as sexism and have double standards.
No but that attitude of yours might (sorry)
Can we be frank? Yes.
I have a Portuguese last name and it sucks that I always have to spell out my name and some people give me a second look when I say it.
Maybe in NYC or Miami it won’t be an issue.
Chief
If you experience that level of bias coming from a western/Southern European country, imagine what people from Africa, India, Middle East, and Asia experience.
In the working world in the US, yes. Studies show that minority-sounding names on resumes get fewer interviews for the exact same experience.
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Hispanic here with a white last name. Desperately wish my last name was more noticeably Hispanic.
In the age of affirmative action, it is objectively very helpful
Just want to point out that individuals don’t often joke about things they are absolutely satisfied with, particularly if they care about the target of the sarcasm. Saying it another way, a confident wealthy person doesn’t gloat or flaunt their money in front of poor relatives. So it might still be worthwhile to ask point blank if they have ever experienced challenges due to their Hispanic names.
Personally disagree with C1, think it’s the other way around. If you have sufficient wealth and/or are sufficiently white-passing, it’s easier to overcome challenges due to the other facet of your identity. Ex: A rich black person doesn’t experience as much racism, and a lower class white person named John Smith isn’t mocked as frequently for their lack of refinement. So again we’ll have to agree to disagree.
With that said, thank you for engaging. Definitely appreciate the cordial discussion as well.
Considered not giving my daughter a Chinese last name (spouse is Chinese, I'm not) as I expect it will make college admissions harder.
In the end it seemed wrong, but I am not convinced we won't regret it.
Last names and identity- I’m giving my chuld an american name
Literally at the court right now filing the petition. I am raising my child all by myself. She should carry on my name and heritage.
In that case, child should have your last name.
Can't wait for my future child with the last name Vanderbilt applying to Wendy for summer job
Yes, here in europe if you have a slavic name/surname you are treated like a second class citizen.
Concur. I have my (estranged) dads surname but my mum refuses to let me change it to her (Slavic) one bc it sounds so Eastern European & she knows I’ll be discriminated against.
Rising Star
Quite the contrary. A White first name and Ethnic last name improves outcomes for interviews, scholarship, college acceptance, etc over:
Ethnic first and White last
Ethnic first and Ethnic last
White first and White last
Sauce: Freakonomics
Husband is a Gonzalez. I grew up with an Italian, unique name. When we got married, I didn’t want Gonzalez, because it’s so common and Hispanic. We went with his mom’s maiden name instead. It’s French/Hispanic, but much more unique. Yea, I feel a bit racist, but would have done the same For Brown, Smith, Allen.
That’s good! I won the - not finding out gender till birth battle, circumcision battle, and many more. He felt strongly about his name Bc he’s the last one in his family to carry it on. So be it!
Chief
It depends on the balance between pride and pragmatism. Not all minorities experience the US the same way. Certain minorities don’t experience a lot of bias based on their name alone. Some experience a lot of bias based on their name, appearance and ideology, e.g. Muslims.
Obviously not saying it should be this way. Just sharing my experience as a minority.
Which minority, where? "Whiter" names will be better in the USA, but other names may be better elsewhere.
Life is about so much more than school and work. If you’re thinking about whitewashing your child’s identity for the sake of enrollments and interviews, I’m sad for your kid.
When the only playing card you have is the privilege card 😂
One step forward , two steps backwards
Very surprised about this. I’m white, foreign, and my name (if mispronounced) is a racial slur 😂
Either my whiteness trumps everything else or people are exceptionally nice to me?
Chief
B1 - So, because I am not white, I won’t be able to clearly see how white people are treated differently? That’s like saying if you have never played soccer, you won’t be able to become an analyst. Let me give you a counter example: Jose Mourinho is one of the best soccer coaches in history and he never played the game professionally.
Here is an idea: send a white person to my job interviews with a wire in their ear. I answer the question and they would just repeat. Then I would go to the same interviews and give the same answers and we test who gets more.
The idea that white privilege doesn’t exist is preposterous
Don't give up your culture
For more context, my child has an option to have a Chinese or white last name
Thinking ahead towards college admissions, your child would be at a disadvantage if the university is aware that they are part Asian (whether via the name or otherwise) vs. if they are viewed as “white”. Things might be different in ~20 years, but who knows.
Obviously other things to consider when naming, but definitely food for thought.