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Would you leave at the start of your second year as manager at b4/ACN for a generalist associate position at mck?

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OP, the Big 4 and Accenture have so many different types of work they do. Are you working in a delivery center? At one of their strategy acquisitions? The answer may change significantly depending on where you are now

I’m in Strategy and would move to generalist at mck

No brainer. I was in B4 Mgmt Consulting track. Joined here. No comparison - pace, quality, depth, progression, personal development. All that comes with a massive uptick in intensity. Not so much hours but what you need to do with those hours. For sure not for everyone, but I’m glad I made the switch.

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What position were you at B4 and what position did you join Mck?

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I would do it.

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Yea I thought it was a no brainer actually Interesting to hear opinions

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if you are looking to exit into industry quickly, might as well stay a mgr and then exit at mgr rather than take a downgrade. If i were a head hunter, I would rather see progression with one firm than seeing someone hop from one firm to another and accepting a title below, especially since in most industries outside of consulting probably don’t know much about any of the firms and their “prestige”. Also shows that you may think your own work as mgr at Accenture wasn’t as valuable. Idk just my opinion

Definately do it. I did - didn’t look back

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I'd only think about doing it if I was guaranteed to start JEMing quickly with the potential of fast promotion and if you want to stay in consulting long term. Not sure if it's otherwise worth taking a demotion to do essentially the same job.

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Not immediately JEMing, but a quick fast track assuming they perform well in their first 3 months. I've seen MBA entry associates JEMing after 1 year with no prior experience so a even faster track is possible with prior caee management experience

For same or more $ it’s a no regrets move to go to McK. Better long term career and $ trajectory, better exit options, better network...

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What about for a little less in the short term?

doesn’t this mean you’re moving backwards in your career? seems in attractive to me although i understand the allure of mckinsey

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it might not “feel” like a step back but objectively it is in terms of rank and responsibilities. if it feels like the right move for you though, go for it!

Absolutely - McKinsey is simply that much more valuable than B4. No brainer decision to me

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No brainer honestly

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It depends.

Depends on what?

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Are you getting a pay raise?

Yea and my overall career trajectory is steepened I would think. Like there’s direct pay benefits over time and then what mck on resume can do for my prospects

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What is the pay of the B4 role vs the pay of the McK role?

Total comp at mck role would be higher year 1, same year 2 (maybe a slight decrease) and then mck role would separate substantially presumably

For reference I’m less than 2 years post-mba

Why would you move two steps back in your title? Couldn’t you convince them to make you a senior associate at least? I don’t get the allure of MCK brand name THAT much for 2 steps down in your career

I strongly suggest you come at an Associate. I came from B4 to Mck, it is very very different way of managing work. The EM role is a really stressful role with very specific expectations from the project partner ( they will expect you to run the day to day and if you don’t and they have to pick up the slack, it will show in your review) . We have an apprentice model where you get taught the toolkit before you get the next level. If you join as an EM, no partner is going to spend hours teaching you the toolkit. And your team (BA, Asco) will expect you to guide them from day one. Come as an Asc ( you will be much more staffable) learn the tool kit and start JEMing in 9 months and get EM designation within a year. Come as an EM and I guarantee you, you will get bad reviews for your first couple projects and that baggage will stick with you for a while. If you get rated issues, you will have 1 cycle to fix things up or you will be shown the door. Finally - financially - there is no significant difference between ASC and EM

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Not sure if I understand the McK structures correctly (A > SA > C > EM) but I'd only leave for Consultant or higher as a Manager.

Not sure about US but in my country MBB Consultant pays more than B4 manager.

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