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Would you quit your job if you are required to go into the office 5 days a week?

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I’m actually considering leaving my current role due to how flexible we are. My issue is that being a more-recent college grad, all the while an new-experienced hire (3yrs in workforce), I have not the slightest idea of what it is like to have a professional work team. By that I mean a group of analysts who work, grow, and learn together. Sure, virtual environments don’t prohibit that, but it does allow people to stay in their shell, avoid general conversations, and completely destroys the idea of getting through the struggle together, which in turn, builds strong relationships. These are all noteworthy opportunity costs for a company since things like isolation and not being heard results in burnout and no brand loyalty. What’s to prevent a post 3/2020 Deloitte consultant from switching to EY-Parth if they offer him/her a bump in pay? It’s not like he or she has any congenital relationships with anyone there anyways? Many think a flexible work environment is the answer. I agree.. to an extent. If the work environment is flexible, what is the difference from 100% WFH? The earliest schools of psychology claim humans will, by majority, take the path of least resistance. So why wake up an extra hour early, or have to pack a lunch/buy a lunch, get dressed, etc? In my own personal opinion, there have to be FIXED days where we have to come in, and days we can work from home. I know many people here have had their early career experiences already, but for the sake of building brand loyalty, creating a professional environment for kids who won’ be able to differentiate their impact on the economy going from college homework to work assignments, and building a lasting network of mentors, friends, and a group of people who grow through by getting shit on by their Seniors each day for year(s), the fixed work schedule is cogent.

Depends on whether or not they want to pay for the privilege. I live 60 miles from my office, fully remote. That’s 120 miles per day, 600 miles a week, or 31,200 miles per year. The irs mileage rate for 2021 is $0.56, which amounts to $17,472 per year. Additionally, I currently make about $30/hour. Are they willing to at least partially increase my take home to account for the 2 hours I’ll be spending on my commute? If there’s some value in me being in the office there should be an appropriate amount of compensation in order to get me to the office. Do I need the full $15,600 (2 hours per day, 5 days a week, 52 weeks a year) for sitting in a car? No. Do I need something? Yes. If they want in-office, they can offer a $20k-$25k raise to cover the time spent as well as the increased wear&tear/insurance/gas/depreciation on my vehicle. Otherwise I’m finding a new job - there are enough recruiters in my DMs it shouldn’t take more than a month.

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My current organization was 100% WFH before COVID. There is zero chance that I would be asked to go into an office. But…. pretending this was possible. Yes I would quit once I found another WFH job. I love WFH. I love: 1) no commute to work 2) easier to have lunch with family 3) more flexibility for taking care of an elderly relative 4) easier to take care of house chores. I take a 10 minute break and move laundry. I never thought about this as a benefit before I started WFH. 5) cuddling and petting my dog. If I have a stressful meeting, I can destress with a couple of minutes of “pet time”. 6) I have a beautiful walking trail near my house. I walk for exercise at the start of my day… get cleaned up and start work without driving anywhere. I can use the time saved from driving, to work on a hobby.

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“pet time” is probably top 3 WFH perks for me, i feel like this one really flies under the radar haha

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Yes. Only boomers, sales people, and extroverts want to go in 5 days a week.

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Yo as an extrovert I hate being in the office haha

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Probably. I recently adopted a puppy with pretty bad separation anxiety so really prefer to WFH until I can get her through that. Otherwise I probably would have been OK with it.

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I’m… I’m not ever going back to working in an office full time. Maybe in 15 years when my poodle no longer needs me. Til then, I’ll be a full time wfh dog mom 🙂

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Yes. I can’t stand office chit-chat and being forced to socialize. I’m also really sensitive to noise which makes me really stressed out in an open office setting

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No. Maybe it’s a personality thing but I hate WFH and most of my friends feel the same way. I actually like seeing and interacting with my coworkers (zoom and phone are not the same) and I genuinely do better and more efficient work in an office.

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I am in a situs where my client work was 4 days at the client site (so travel every week) pre-Covid. But on those days where I was in town I worked from home. Now I can’t imagine traveling every week. So a slightly different answer to your question, if I had to go back to travel 100% yes I would probably look for a new job.

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Yes. I signed a permanently remote contract.

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This is SO helpful, thank you!! I’m actually already at a Publicis agency so it might be harder to negotiate now but I’m definitely looking into it. Will also keep this top of mind during my job search. Appreciate it 😊

yup. If I can do my job from home, I don’t need to be in the office. Why would they need me in an office? For “serendipitous” watercooler small talk with coworkers who I have nothing in common with? 🤢

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Not if they gave me a **lot** more money 💰💰💰

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Damn, there's a lot of privilege in this thread.

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I am so privileged to work from home, and I am so happy about it!

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I honestly probably would. Ideally I would do 2 days in the office and 3 at home but with having small kids being home fully has been great.

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No. I love my job, the office, the company, the buildings. I miss interacting with random people in the hallways and at the coffee machines and snack stations. Yes, commuting is a hassle, but it was my time to catch up on reading, podcasts, and mulling over solutions. I miss going for walks around the building and around the stinky streets of New York. Even before the pandemic, my team switched to working 2 days in the office and 3 remote, but I still went in 5 days a week! I've gotten used to working from home, but I prefer the office. At home I have a hard or hearing mother-in-law playing Korean dramas and church music at top volume all. day. long.

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Gotta get those noise canceling headphones bruh 😎

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I was required 50% and I quit

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I was told to and did quit. So did most of the firm.

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Yes, during the pandemic I set up a sweet home office, am getting tons of job offers to work 100% remote, and I have no desire to put my family and I at risk of catching this or the next variant by going to the office.

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I have a lot of Salesforce certs and years of experience as a consultant.

Definitely yes. If a company still acting like things didn't change with the pandemic, I won't work for them.

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Considering i work in nyc so yes. If company pays uber credits and offers lunch maybe i will consider. New york is a very uncomfortable and an expensive city to live in and i don’t want to go back to commuting in demeaning subways and pay for overpriced midtown manhattan lunches.

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Yes, it is now classist to say you don’t want to get mugged, or be surrounded by feces. 🙄

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Yeah. I just quit my job that required everyone back in everyday, and they lost a lot of people because of it. Got a fully remote job.

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Yes, I would definitely quit. I have been WFH for 18 years. At first, I was raising children and now I am the primary caregiver for my disabled mother-in-law.

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I am in the same situation. They expect us in 5 days a week but I am a staff accountant who crunches numbers all day.

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I kinda did? My old company demanded I come back to the office 5 days per week back in June. I complied for maybe a week, then just refused to go back more than a day or two. I quit 3 months later for better work and a better environment, full WFH option, and a 40% raise. And I actually love coming to the office (see “better environment” above lol).

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Hahaha CONGRATS!!!

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Yes - 2 days a week is maximum and the best I can do.

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Agree 2 days is perfect. But I still think it should be flexible if bad weather or someone has to get their head down about something

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