Would you rather (A) expect a 6k bonus and get 8k or (B) expect 12k and get 10k?

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A all the way

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^^Also agree that yes, I assumed these events were independent of each other

The only thing you can control is your own perception of the world around you. Expect nothing. Appreciate everything.

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It is a poorly simplified representation of stoicism and adherents would certainly say it applies equally to the king and the peasant. Protesters are certainly not under the illusion that they are in control.

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Bonus question, how do we get any of the bonuses mentioned above?

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haha stick around a couple more years!

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Why on earth would anyone choose A? I want more money ($10k > $8k), not matter what my expectations were.

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You would purposely lowball yourself so you don’t deal with disappointment?

The next time you are interviewing for a job, tell the hiring manger that you will would like to be paid at the bottom of the pay range.

Typically, the people that get higher comp (salary/bonus/incentive) set high expectations for what they want and actively communicate it. Employere notice the employees that are satisfied with crumbs and give those employees slightly bigger crumbs to make them think they are getting a good deal.

C expect a $10k bonus and get a $10k bonus
Most people will pick A because it is great to feel appreciated and under scenario B you’ll think you did work for no pay which is demoralizing.

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I see, so the two thousand dollars worth of work was unrewarded. I understand now. Thanks.

How could getting a smaller bonus possibly be the better answer?

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Fortunately EY has done a great job managing my expectations so I assume I will get 0

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B is objectively better, but getting more than expected will always feel better than getting less than expected.

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B. Why would I choose less money? 10 > 8

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Uhh considering 10> 8, I’ll go with option B.

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Yeah, I didn't think the author was implying mutual exclusivity of the scenarios. If that was the intent, the question and debate becomes much less interesting in my opinion.

On this basis, manage your own expectations and always assume Nil - if you get anything, its a pleasant surprise!

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Option B....show me the money

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I'm so confused. So 8k or 10k. I'll take the 10k. Thanks.

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You could aim to be at the highest tier. That is entirely a cognitive function and 100% within your control. You can take the actions that help you get there. This is partially under your control. You can recognize that what actually happens is based on decisions that other people make. 100% not in your control.

(A) is the way retail gets yah! Lol

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Remember this kids:

C + P = E

Your circumstance and your perspective will result in the type of experience you have.

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In a vacuum? B. But if you're expecting 6k, you probably negotiated a slightly higher base to adjust for the lower bonus amount.

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What if your salary was the same under both?

B please. Mo’ money, mo’ money, mo’ money!

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B

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Definitely B granted my opinion on bonuses is to expect $0 even if there's a technical way you can estimate it.

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Human nature will always lean towards wanting A lol

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What did you base your expectations on?

Just a thought experiment to provoke conversation. How would how you set expectations change the impact your answer?

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