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“You gave me an F!” I’m so sick of students shouting about how I failed them... after all the tutoring, and make up assignment chances I offered them.

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I have found some ways to counteract this response. One is to make a big deal over the number of students who did well. This can be done by listing the percentage of A's and B's earned on any one particular test or assignment. Do this with enthusiasm. Ask students who were successful for tips in class as to what study techniques they used. Minimize the negativity of focusing on failure. You would be surprised by how effective this is especially if you start the year with assignments that lend themselves to a higher degree of success. However, if you have many students failing, you may need to rethink your testing format or the frequency of testing. Are you covering too much ground in one test? Can you consider short quizzes before testing to evaluate understanding and possible reteaching of skills? In terms of writing, I always mark for errors on Google Classroom and give students an opportunity to revise making these corrections for a grade or two up. For projects I always use a detailed rubric which includes all requirements and the qualities required for each grade. I also show sample projects for each grade AND I have "project check" when I require that students show typed portions of the completed project. This ensures that when students are NOT making progress I can communicate this to parents. These checks receive grades. I have used these methods with remedial, average, and honors classes and I can tell you that I have developed these techniques over 35 years of teaching and they dramatically reduced the concerns raised by others in this post. Feel free to use!

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You are welcome! Although I run a "tight ship " and don't like to waste time and do have high expectations, I also work hard to motivate my students and clear hurdles that prevent success. When teachers start yelling in class about students "earning F's" they have lost their audience. I know that it is easy to feel righteous about students failing but it is a trap. I've worked in some tough teaching environments and the key to motivating students is not self pity as a teacher. Rather, think like an effective coach. The "take it or leave it " approach in motivating students is ineffective. We need to "sell" students on why what they are expected to learn is important and worth the effort. If you can't sell it, maybe it's not worth doing. I tell my middle school students that my class maybe the "last best chance " to learn certain skills before entering high school. I tell them, and I believe, that often in high school teachers do not have the time to review certain skills. These same teachers may (and do) say, " You should have learned that in middle school." I tell my students that we will not spend time on crossword puzzles or word searches. We will laugh, work hard, but only work on the most important skills. We are not going to waste anybody's time. I am their language arts coach and as I work hard as part of a "team" I expect them to work hard as team members too. Students respect this attitude. I know when my sell has been effective when I come across my "average students" who are now adults who tell me that what they learned helped them to be more successful in high school, work, and/or college,

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My son is graduating from a UC school in California next month. In all his four years he never once got an A in ANY class! He got some A’s here and there on papers, quizzes, projects, etc...but never a final grade of A in any class in four years and we never once felt “cheated!” He worked his butt off, and we truly felt he got the grades he deserved. The classes were hard and some really were a struggle for him to pass with a C and he was so proud of those C’s because he PASSED! Now, four years later he is graduating just like everyone else who got all A’s and B’s. Plus, he’s been interviewing for jobs and so far NO ONE cares about his GPA, courses he took, etc! These companies and businesses care about whether you can communicate, collaborate, think critically, and have creativity among others essential life skills! I caught a student cheating on a test this past week! I gave him an F and emailed the parents right there in class and informed them!

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You didn’t GIVE them anything. They earned it

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Reinforce when students get an A, that they have earned it. Make sure they know that no matter what the grade, they are the ones who have earned it. Maybe teachers should put the phrase “You have earned ____ on this assessment,” rather than just the letter grade

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I'm afraid that when too many students fail that it may be the teacher...just saying.

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Sometimes, it's apathy on the student's part. So many teachers are afraid to allow their students to keep the grades they earn because people will think they are a bad teacher.

I tell my students F means find another answer and keep trying

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I have the student talk about and think about the choices they made that got them here with an F

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Absolutely, I always give my students exactly the grade they have earned. I have a small mirror hanging on a wall in my room that reads, "Meet the person responsible for your grade."

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One of the first things I tell each of my students on the first day of school and I have it posted in my room is that I am just the scorekeeper and it’s up to them to decide what grade they want.

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I don't give grades, kids earn them. Plain and simple.

They will be alright 🤷🏾‍♀️

I usually remind my kids I don't "give" them anything....they earn it

I didn’t give you anything. I am only the messenger of your grade.

I love saying no I did not give you anything! You EARNED an F!

I tell my students all the time, I don’t give grades, you earn them. Then I show them their percentages and how they average out.

I like to say " I agree that an F is terrible. I wanted to give you an A, but you didn't earn one.

Another line I use is "I am glad you dare. About your grade" drives em crazy

Oops care about your grade.

But they never say “you gave me an A” they always ‘earn’ those bout never ‘earn’ the F lol

Student: You gave me an F! Teacher: uh, no, sweetheart, look at this success criteria... now look at your work... you have given me an F.

Student: You gave me an F! Teacher: While I have your attention, these 8 assignments can still be turned in and this essay can be rewritten. It’s the day before everything is due... there’s no time like the present! I’m here until 3:45... Ready, set, go!

I spend a lot of time building a new perspective about failure with learners. We build an understanding that fail means first attempt in learning and that we can transform failure into something much more powerful. This has been helpful in shifting not only the mindsets of learners but of their families, too

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