Normalize:
– not being “available to hop on a quick call”
– not responding immediately
– not working after hours
– not living for your job

Do you agree?

Reality:
- they’ll gossip about you for all the above
- you get pushed out
- they found someone else

That’s my normal. As soon as I realized I had no opportunity for raises or advancement, I stopped working like my life depended on it. The work is still getting done to the best of my ability while I figure out my next steps. My colleagues who place boundaries are doing just fine. It’s just a job; I feel sorry for the people who are working themselves to the ground. It will not likely pay off. The people who lack boundaries tend to play victim and blame everyone but themselves. If they want to neglect their personal life and send noncritical emails on Saturday afternoon while I work on my tan, so be it

I hate to say it but the skill to control the swirl is one of the most important things that gets you promoted. That’s not just about clients, it’s internal as well.

I learned that agencies don’t appreciate you for doing tons of work. They appreciate the noteworthy stuff (obv a creative’s phrasing but it holds true of other roles too). So the ability to do what’s reasonable and do it well, while drawing boundaries in the right way, is a valuable skill.

I feel like you should try to:

- not make you available for a quick call, saying no is an art and you own it
- take your time and let you solve your priorities first and not respond immediately
- leave work on the right time and define your boundaries with your boss or whoever is requesting work
- work for a living

What ECD1 said. Being exceptional and providing shit ons of value during regular hours gives you way more license to put your foot down and set boundaries for your time outside of work hours.

Europe, yes.

USA, difficult.

Having worked in both and currently working in the US it’s hard to say no to anything when I know I have zero worker rights and can be fired at a moments notice. I’m a manager so I enforce these rules for how I treat people that work with me but I can’t say no to my own bosses.