Good morning! My school system is moving to a canned curriculum... We have three to choose from (I teach grade 8 ELA).. I'm looking for feedback on these 3 products:.
EL ,
Wit & Wisdom
Amplify

How scripted are they? How good is the material?

Thanks!

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Amplify is very scripted. However, it works very well. I use amplify as a supplemental curriculum to work with during my small groups since we also use amplify for DiBELS testing. I have seen a lot of growth in my children when I have used this. The other two programs I have actually never heard of

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I don't know anything about any of those from personal experience, but here's something to think about:

"Scripted" is definitely being used a perjorative here, at least in some of the comments. And yeah, if you're an experienced teacher forced to follow a heavily scripted curriculum, that's not going to be enjoyable and you're not going to be as effective as you could be.

But if your district is like a lot of districts these days, with teachers leaving the profession in droves, you might not have a lot of experienced teachers. Lots of districts these days are making do with long-term substitutes or "teachers" on emergency certification, going to night school to earn a teaching certificate while they're in the classroom during the day. Or even lots of teachers in their first five years. A heavily scripted curriculum can make those sorts of people much more effective in the classroom. Not as effective as actual, qualified teachers, but more effective than they'd be without the scripting.

If you've got a lot of newbies and (just as important!) good district leadership that knows who to hold to the script and will let veterans use it as a guideline or resource rather than prescriptively, a "scripted" curriculum might not be something to avoid.

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amplify is scripted, yuck!

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Amplify has been awesome. It's true that there is a script, but you don't have to read it directly once you know the curriculum. I wish I had had it my first year teaching.
Now that I've taught it for 4 years, I know the basic points and emphasize and differentiate accordingly, along with the Google slides my team and I made to go along with it. It's been by far the most fun I've had teaching ELA.

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I believe Wit and Wisdom uses real (quality) literature. That is a big deal.

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It’s not just scripted. It’s materials are inappropriate for elementary. My district banned Midsummer Night’s Dream. I taught it the previous first year without issue. I did not get to the last unit last year I thought we’d have a good novel study at the end of the year, but is about a depressed mom who can’t take care of her family and and a daughter who is trying to help her mom. 5th grade. I’m not touching that one with a discontinued yard stick. Our first grade teachers do not like it. Our school went from a TEA rating of B to an F after using Amplify with fidelity.

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I get it, but if a text needs to be adapted for language and appropriateness, then perhaps it shouldn’t be used for that age level. There are so many good texts that have been recently written for upper elementary. Why are they not using them?

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We hate amplify in our district.

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Ok. My problem is that it’s taking texts intended for older audiences and pushing them down to lower grades. Midsummer, Romeo and Juliet, even Frankenstein are now texts used in middle and upper elementary. They are doing this because using those texts is cheaper due of copyright laws. However, there are some GREAT texts that have been written just for kids of this age that are actually on their developmental level. Changing classic texts and/or only using excerpts, which is the epitome of teaching to a standardized test, is not the answer. Amplify does all of this. Sorry, not a fan.

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I'm not convinced excepting excellent writing at the elementary level is what leads to a lack of reading stamina.
Kids don't have stamina because they don't read for enjoyment. This is partly due to not having this modeled for them in schools or at home, and partly because reading is just not going to be able to compete in the minds of young students with their technological devices. My own children love reading because I read to them, and they will love reading when they're able to read. But if they were given a choice, they'd pick video games and TV and a screen. It is just that more gripping. As their parent, I make the choice instead because I value books more.

Students today are not buying into the idea that reading is worth investing in and their stamina has tanked as a result--not because elementary schools aren't doing novel studies anymore.

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EL is great but you really need to read through it and adapt it yourself your class.

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I use Amplify Science for middle school. It's okay. If I had to give it a grade, I would give it a C because it is easy for the students to use, but in my opinion, it doesn't go in depth on deeper concepts. Also, I do spend a lot of time trying to figure out what they are asking.

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The teachers at my elementary school don't like not having flexibility in their curriculum. I'm an inclusion teacher so it doesn't apply to me as much as them.

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It is unfortunate that systems adopt whole programs in reading and writing. These tend to be cumbersome at best and are very difficult to implement as written and designed. It appears we are replacing the L. Calkins units and F &P with other programs that will have just as many limitations and pitfalls.

In a related note…Guided reading is now coming into question, and it should as it was over adopted and administrators and some literacy folks started coming at it with cult mindsets. It probably should remain in place as one of a number of instructional approach for some student groups sone of the time.

MA had teachers look real closely at the Acceleration Road Map in 2021-2022. It called for a number of things, one of which was to move away from the common model of intervention and bring the focus to Tier I instruction and align supports accordingly. Thid could be interpreted a number of ways. The percentage of students in the Red and Yellow (well below and below/low performing)on the screeners in our system is very high and has been for many years. It’s clearly a core curriculum issue. You can’t intervene your way out of a poor Tier I curriculum/approaches.

Wit & Wisdom is too fiddly. Too much little stuff I teach 4th grade but we are also looking into curriculums based in the Science of Reading. We are currently between Ready Reading and CKLA though.

My district started EL this year. It’s horribly scripted and timed and there is so much of it! Depending on age/grade level, you are sifting through at least 4 teacher resource books to get all your materials together (our first module had NINE teacher books to go through just to gather materials) and most of the work is discussion with minimal writing. TONS of prep work on teacher’s part.

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There’s a definite pattern here, and it’s spreading across the country. Canned, cookie-cutter curriculum serves neither students nor their teachers. It speaks volumes about the confidence that administrators have in their teachers. We need more qualified administrators. 🧐

...and more qualified teachers.

The average teacher quits in under five years. A bunch of "teachers" are not qualified to be teachers, just jumped-up subs on emergency certs.

Forcing qualified, experienced teachers to follow a heavily scripted curriculum is ridiculous. It's counterproductive and bordering on educational malpractice. But expecting an unprepared first year teacher in a school with so many unprepared first year teachers that the veterans can't effectively mentor all of them to plan and execute instruction like a veteran is similarly ridiculous.

The scripted curricula are becoming more common because we're driving out all the teachers who can teach and staffing schools with babysitters. "Heavily scripted" is something babysitters can actually sort of do.

We piloted Amplify in science and it was the most soul sucking experience for us ever! The kids never got to do science they were just supposed to read cards about what the results were of the investigation they didn't do. Why bother?

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