Has anyone dealt with a male junior attorney who doesn’t respect your authority (I’m a midlevel)? At first I gave him the benefit of the doubt (he’s new), but he keeps failing to follow directions and meet expectations, and his emails to me come off as very condescending. I just don’t know what to do to instill in him that he does actually need to do what I say.

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

Call them and politely tell them that if they continue to fail to follow instructions, you will have to ask for them to be removed from the matter (or whatever credible threat you can come up with). Then tell them you would rather avoid doing something that could negatively affect their career. Ask if they will be able to work with you going forward or if you should prepare to get a senior attorney involved.

Do this by phone so you can have a nice but firm tone, so they don’t feel like you’re making a paper trail, and so they can’t tattle.

Next time they fail to follow instructions, “as we discussed, you need to follow my directions. Please correct this now.”

And never ever let them off the hook for an assignment if they are lazy about it unless you absolutely have to. Make them fix it until it’s done even if it’s an evening, weekend, whatever.

like

Unfortunately you can’t address tone easily. In my experience it corrects itself once you assert your authority successfully. The sentence in their review is “challenging to communicate with and is sometimes unprofessional; would not recommend allowing him to communicate with clients or opposing counsel on behalf of the firm.”

like

This is almost all male juniors with some but not much variance on respect

like

I’ve had this experience many times with junior males, especially if they are a year or two below me. I just ignored it because I didn’t have to always work with them, but curious how others handle!

like

Keep your tone curt and CC partners on all emails with him. No direct messaging

likesmart

Wow, Assoc 3, what’s going on there??
OP, twenty plus years of work experience, many, many experiences with male colleagues, junior to me, peers and direct reports, where this occurs. One junior male colleague hired to support two more senior women attorneys very stupidly shared with a male colleague of mine that he “doesn’t take direction from or listen to women”. Needless to say, he was moved on. I’ve also seen and experienced it with female colleagues, including someone junior in my reporting chain who told me (after trying to undercut me in a meeting) that she has to prioritize her relationship with her male peers (also junior to me). I think the generalization is that: due to the way many people are socialized to think about women, many people have difficulty with women in authority positions. It sucks. It’s unnecessary exhausting and it can wear you down, but I do think we are chipping away at this.

If the behavior is persistent and ongoing, you will want to start to address and document and not wait for a mid year or annual performance review. I think you talk to him and then put it in email. Don’t tolerate this nonsense.

likehelpful

So many of them come in thinking they're god's gift to the law and that they're smarter than everyone else. They literally go to law school so that they can dominate other people and self sooth their low self-esteem.

I recently dealt with a female junior who literally would not take my or the partner's direction. Would refuse to send docs when we begged her to... challenged us on everything. I lost 7 lbs dealing with her in two weeks.

Make sure you tell a partner you trust/who's on the client right away so this doesn't blow back on you. Find a differential way to say that he's not performing and not being cooperative.

like

Yikes. I had this junior, but I kept being brought in by the partner to oversee him. Fortunately he lateraled before I had to address it. Found out he was doing virtual nothing and relying on the paralegals to get by.

Now I have to see him at an event we’re both speaking at. 🫠

likefunny

Yes. The only solution I found was to stop working with them. After 2-3 unsuccessful attempts to get the work that’s needed, I gave the work to someone else.

In most cases, the associate eventually left the firm.

In one instance, the associate made partner, because he was prioritizing the work of male partners over mine.

like

This is also the only solution I’ve found (stop working with them). I’ve tried addressing it directly (was just stared at) and raising it with leadership, who happened to be male and made only a halfhearted effort to address it (and was satisfied with the make associate’s excuses in response). I’ve always wanted and tried to “be the change” but have rarely found that to be valued by anyone but other women.

like

I have dealt with this for all genders…. The worst was a female paralegal who was younger than me and believed she could practice law better 🫠

like

Oh, we’re making sweeping gender studies out of mid-level grievances now? Fascinating. Maybe the issue is just a junior not respecting a mid-level, but if BigLaw associates have cracked the gender dynamics code between redlines, I’d love to see the Harvard Business Review write-up.

like

Labeling me a “gunner for men’s rights” because I dismantled a sloppy narrative isn’t a rebuttal—it’s a self-own. You assumed my gender, avoided the argument, and recycled a screenshot because original thought wasn’t available.

This isn’t sisterhood. It’s lazy consensus masquerading as insight. I’ve seen this episode before—you think you’re Alicia Florrick delivering a takedown. You’re actually the first-year associate she leaves speechless in a motions hearing because you didn’t prep.

I don’t need to win. I already did when I made you default to labels instead of logic.

like

I dealt with something similar with a male paralegal and it turned out that we really just had different communication styles and he was feeling overwhelmed. I had a heart to heart with him about my expectations and boundaries, and it got way better after that. Maybe your guy is totally different, I have no idea, but that worked for me!

like

Related Posts

Y’all have been super helpful in the past, still learning what to look out for in used watches in terms of condition. How does this look? Here’s a 2000 sub I’m looking at - they’re asking $8100

Post Photo
like

How do i buy floki inu?

like

How is the appraisal process in Cerner? What are the procedures for internal jump?

Want to make investments but the market has been going up. Any advice on whether I should wait for a dip or just go in. Newbie here so looking for perspectives

like

Any good realtors in chicago that people can recommend?

like

The general rule of thumb for a mortgage is 28% (primary residence) of gross income. My firm switched up their process and now instead of nice size raises it’s large bonuses. So getting increasing my gross income doesn’t really change unless I include my bonus which is obviously a variable. Is their a recommended approach for these scenarios? Maybe use agi on tax return instead of gross income?

like

Hi! Does anyone have a recommendation on a realtor? Looking for a condo in DC

like
like

What are you looking forward to during the holidays?

like

Some clients are really nervous about getting scammed by a realtor. How can I ensure them that this is not the case?

like

Is it possible to buy a house and sell it for a higher price?

like

Hi guys, new to crypto currency space, which mobile app is best for trading these, any suggestions?

Anyone know of any great articles or advice for building a multi-sided platform at the beginning of that platform’s life? I’m building a video platform for education (user-generated chunks, kind of like YouTube or TikTok but specific to education vertical) and I’m thinking about early strategy for content acquisition, would love to hear what other entrepreneurs have done. Both strategic and tactical resources appreciated!
#startup #marketplace #UGC #education #learning #strategy

like

Hi All,

If anyone please refer me in VMware, Thanks!

Such a great discussion. I’ve just started a bowl for diversity in London specifically if anyone is interested - 9qo8f

like

Larsen & Toubro Infotech Hi All, whats the relocation snd accomodation policy of LTI for new joiners, I tried to contact HR but nobody is responding properly l, not sure where I can get that and how much they reimburse. Larsen & Toubro Infotech

like

Which office getting inaugurated on August 15?

like

Anyone else just sitting around waiting for the ax to drop? I'm a soon to be 2nd year corporate associate who has seen work completely dry up. My utilization held pretty steady around 50% immediately after shutdown, but August was below 15 billables with no appreciable work in the pipeline. Aside from letting people know I'm available and doing pro-bono/CLE, it's starting to feel like a serious "covidcation" leading to termination.

like

I have 6 yrs experience in automation testing...what's the current salary package companies are providing and how I can expect/negotiate.

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal