I’ve just come to say that I gave up in tech. After cybersecurity bootcamp (cydeo), and a year of looking for jobs…. I gave up. I’m in bk ny, I got rent, I got bills, food is expensive here.
Cydeo is a scam of a bootcamp. They fired the main instructors just to hire out of country for cheaper. They didn’t teach well, they didn’t do “real life scenarios” as promised, and they lied about the job market. We were told to apply to thousands of jobs in hopes of 1 calling.
I’m going back to medicine

Good luck. The tech industry got messed up the moment all these coding gurus/influencers & bootcamps became mainstream promising people that after a course they can be comfy 6 figure earners.

I have not gone to a boot camp but I did complete projects on my own. I did Over the Wire to learn bash scripting which is free. I documented the whole thing put it on my resume and got some interviews because of that. Think you need to do projects on your own and document them on github and youtube and such to show people what you can do.

Almost all boot camps are scams.

I’m sorry to hear about your experience. I feel bootcamps peaked pre-COVID. Companies were hiring like crazy, bootcamp graduates were getting scooped up too, because sometimes technology was a bit newer and bootcamp graduates had “real world” projects whereas Universities were not teaching those technologies yet. Now people are coming out with degrees in Data Science, Cybersecurity, etc., and tech hiring has slowed.

Bootcamps that were created during the boom are still trying to stay in business and therefore give misleading claims and a lot of false hope.

Can I ask what kind of medicine job did you leave to embark in the tech field

I don't blame you. I have almost given up on tech as well. Most of the jobs are garbage, there is no security, and American employers in particular have no interest in supporting their employees. For now I'm looking to work with Canadian and European companies to compete with Google/Facebook/AWS as their monopolies need to be destroyed, but if nothing comes from that I'll be selling alcohol for a living. I have 30 years experience btw.

I never went to bootcamp style of curriculum but I did go to a recognized tech institute and they are legit and was paid for by unemployment agency. They have access to job openings and you can network with fellow students. But that was pre COVID. Not sure why you want to transition to tech but healthcare industry also needs tech folks. Good luck with your next move.

Think you are better off taking the pay what you can course's from Black Hills Information Security or signing up for online courses from Cyber Mentor which are $80 a quarter or signing up for the MyDifr course on YouTube to become a soc analyst which is around $500. My dfir puts out tons of free content on YouTibe so you get a taste for what you are getting same with CyberMentor. I have heard good things about Josh Makador on YouTube too. These guys have lots of free stuff on social media and their paid stuff is a fraction of the price of a boot camp. If anyone knows other good low cost and free options please add to this thread.

interesting how the blame is on the bootcamp. honest truth is I haven't ever found a good candidate from a bootcamp. I hire people who live/eat/breathe tech. they go home and code games/SBC's/LLM's. they fix systems for fun and take gadgets apart to see what makes them tick. they're endlessly creating projects just for the sake of learning. by making endless mistakes and fixing them their knowledge skyrocket above bootcampers' mentality of "i passed a class. now pay me". for cybersecurity i'd be looking at candidates who were breaking into systems as a kid and have stuff on their resumes that aren't learned in school. some of my best hires had the most unpolished resumes, but showed that spark of self motivation.

Yes agreed . Boot camps are a kind of scam . After spending thousands of dollars on their cyber security course and a sec plus certification plus 4 years of developer experience, I an looking out for jobs for past 7-8 months

Tech industry is rough. I have 20+ years in various roles such as sysadmin, netadmin, database admin, exchange admin etc. Worked at MSP ding help desk...network and security. Worked my last company for 11 years with the last 3.5 in Cybersecurity/ SOC and they let me go to hire cheaper labor.

I also have BAS In Technology Management with minor in Cybersecurity as well as AS degree in Networking and I have a few MS certs and an ISC2 cyber cert.

Lost job Feb 5, 2024 and couldn't land a job until November 2024 after applying for everything under the sun and having good interviews. I think I only got my job since I knew 3 people working there or I'd probably still be unemployed.

I get your frustration and it may get the best of you.... but the industry is crowded since everyone wants to be Cybersecurity.

Good luck....

Author: thank you to everyone who shared. The thing that gets to me the most, is that this bootcamp fired the main instructors, and hired others for a lesser salary out of the US. Promised to teach us real life scenarios, and did not. We were warned that we likely will start off with an entry level job paying 50k, but uhm… even that isn’t hiring.

As for me, I’m already enrolled into another school. I personally feel happier being in medicine. I don’t like the idea of switching jobs often or companies being so anal, and constantly being on my toes. I got anxiety, interviews give me legit panic attacks, my boss firing me gives me panic. I can’t sleep at night knowing I’m not financial stable, and that I can loose my job cause a company needs to save money. Medicine is stable, you can hop around or stay put, in nyc the demand is real and the pay got so good. It’s not 100%, but your not gona get fired cause a hospital or facility needs to save money. It’s a needed service. The interviews aren’t that serious, one round. And on top of that, I am more educated in the field of science than I am in IT. My confidence skyrockets once the topic is physics and chemistry.

Maybe I chose the wrong field to follow, who knows. I don’t want to work on my feet forever, I will age and get older. I was thinking of my future family, my kids, and my legs when I went into cyber. It would have been really great to work remotely, and spend my breaks prepping my husband dinner, catching up on never ending chores. It’s easier to run the house while working from home. More comfortable than commuting for 2 hours and working 8-10 hours, and then coming home to make dinner and do laundry.

I too was fooled into believing that there are jobs out there waiting for us after boot camp. I settled to being an apprentice pm.
Since then I’ve been stuck in a position I really don’t love. I learned a lot about project management, however it’s not my passion. I’ve applied to many jobs as well. I’d be lucky if I get one call after sending out a thousand resumes.
I still have hope. Until then I’m setting up labs to keep the knowledge doing micro situations. And keeping on the latest interview questions.
I wish you well.

Yeah alot of bootcamps are scummy.

I went to one and it worked out for me but got a degree after.

Oh man I'm so sorry, it's brutal out there. The only piece of advice I'd give those still wanting to continue in the industry is to become a maintainer on an open source project. I think it adds to your portfolio and is a great way to get more real world experience

Yeah, but have you ever tried making a perfect grilled cheese sandwich while being chased by a goose? Some battles just can't be won.

I’m curious about the employment rate for your batch you graduated from
Has everyone in there been struggling with getting a job in cyberspace?

Just thought I'd say, I know a guy who didn't get a coding job until he applied for two years straight. You can apply daily for coding jobs while doing some other job, and that effort wouldn't cost you much of anything even if you never get one.

As for your comment about job oursourcing, I guess I'm in the minority who say "so what?". People need to work regardless of where they're from.