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Scrum Master Certification question:
Out of these certifications:
1. CSM
2. PSM
3. DASSM
Which one teaches you the most/preps/gives you the qualifications you need the most for getting into big tech companies? I’m mainly wondering about the reputation of each certifications and how they compare to each other.
Do any of these certifications help when transitioning into Product Manager role in the future?
Lastly, what are the pros/cons of being a Program vs Product Mngr in re: TC, Rep, etc.?Google Amazon Microsoft
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I’m just going to throw this out as a devil’s advocate.
Be honest. The answer you’ve given does nothing to help them nor yourself.
The compensation was low I would say that. If you had a bad experience tell them. If they blackball you for honesty, you probably don’t to work for them anyway. They also can’t make any changes based on your current feedback.
There’s a scene from The Pentagon Wars that I love. The secretary of defense is in a meeting with a bunch of generals regarding weapons development, and he says something along the lines of “I don’t know what’s happening because the people in charge of these weapons don’t tell me the truth.”
Maybe they are a bad company and maybe they aren’t. I would give them the opportunity to improve themselves for the next candidate.
This just validates why I love Fishbowl. Your response prompted an organizational change.
Who knows maybe the OP’s company in question will take a long hard look at their compensation and processes. Companies that want to grow and thrive are going to take that feedback and act on it positively. If they are invested in the rest of the business as they are in the hiring process, then they will consider coming back to you, then you might want to give working for them another thought.
Rising Star
If you already gave them a reason, no need to keep responding unless you would apply there again later in the future.
I would state the compensation was too low, they may counter. I wouldn't mention the negative experience unless you don't intend on applying there again.
You answered already. Just ghost them.
Iv been ghosted so many times by recruiting firms without ways to improve etc. Ghost em.
You don’t owe them anything more than a no. So if you don’t want to answer then simply don’t!
You don't owe them anything but explaining the negative aspects of your interview experience may help them going forward.
True, but companies don't respond to us when we ask for feedback to improve so 🤷
Ghost ‘em. If it were the other way around, you more than likely wouldn’t hear from them.
On the Recruiting side, it’s hard bc we want to protect the candidate and preserve the relationship with the hiring manager who isn’t getting that the offer wasn’t up to par. I would give the feedback about the comp (in case it was the hiring manager’s suggestion, if not the recruiter needs to do better next time) and leave it at that. Sounds like you dodged a bullet!
You already answered them. You do not owe another explanation. If you feel compelled to provide additional details, be honest. However, it is not needed (I don't ask my candidates for specific details. I have had some tell me they received higher offers.. but not bc I was probing!)
Give them feedback but honestly that is a 2 way street. Had they not chosen you would you be getting feedback from them? Re bad experience - One thing that has bothered me in this interview process is that you could very well be interviewing with potential peers that may perceive you as a threat or even just that they don’t like it there . I’ve had initial conversations with would be peers Vs the hiring manager. I get that peer interviews are important for culture fit but I’ve had some strange vibes. These companies need to put their best foot forward especially since compensation may be limited. I have worked with great recruiters and it would be terrible to work to find a candidate and have a problem in the next rounds of the interview process.
Be honest. It isn't unusual for organizations to ask why you're turning them down. They need to know that they are not offering you what you want.