What role or at what level did you feel like you have moved beyond feeling like a glorified administrative assistant?

I have been a project manager, a department director, and somehow I keep finding myself taking notes, scheduling meetings and training the new guy.

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When I started in my current position, I learned my predecessor always took on administrative requests, which set up the expectation that I would, as well. To clarify, these requests were not within the scope of my role or even my department.

I confirmed with my boss that I had her support in declining these requests, then pushed back when they arose.

It took about 9 months of consistently saying no (professionally and courteously). Now, I almost never get asked to do admin tasks. Instead, my colleagues appropriately find a junior person on their own team, rather than coming to me, a senior department head.

It is not in my nature to say no. I love to give and help, and I’m soft spoken. But this pushback helps my team and they are so appreciative that our department is not treated like a group of admin assistants anymore. My colleagues also have more respect for me.

I hope this is helpful or encouraging!

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This!! I've been in my industry for 20+ years and still people think I sit around waiting for them to give me tasks, schedule meetings, and taking notes then have the nerve to tell me my notes weren't what they were looking for or there were people missing from the invite list. In ALL the cases it has been because they had worked with someone who had worked within that type of dynamic. I continue to push back and have told my team to do the same. The only way it's going to change is by staying strong in what your manager has determined to be the R&Rs and they can support when folks try to go around.

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I’m on the same boat. When I can, I delegate training or note taking to one of my team members.

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Yes and no. Sometimes these additional tasks are covered under the “task as assigned” portion of your job description.

I am in the process of asking for a raise since I train and onboard other PM’s and that’s my boss’ responsibility.

As i grown in my team, whne admin work is given to me and i think its their responsibility, , i always pause and think first before saying yes straight away. I always ask my junior employees to take notes before going to meeting and at the end of the meeting I will have a debreif call with them to see what they dont understand and ask them to share theur notes. So they know that is important to take notes. On admin task, if i think the person is responsible, i will always say why cant you do it, are u busy? Most of the time they will say they will do it then. 😂 If they say they dont know, i will say the task is easy and i can teach them so they know how to do it next time.

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Also sounds like u are a team player, u teach the new guy. I also found myself doing that at the beginning of my career as i feel for junior employee but as I progress i realise not everyone does it and sometime the junior employee is not very appreciative. I begin to let go unless I have been specifically assigned to support and learn to mind my own business but perhaps have a more social aspect to the relationship. But i dont go out of my way to support.

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The way my assistants always ask me for notes….when it’s the job I’ve assigned them. But I’m a known habitual note taker 😬

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I’ll be honest. Never. Being a woman will always mean you’re the default secretary. I am a VP and due to my people pleasing nature and drive, I will always do administrative tasks for others (men) on my level or even my (female) boss (COO).

The problem is me (you). Take a page out of Gen Z’s book and SET BOUNDARIES.

Even having subordinates I still do admin work because I’m a perfectionist and people pleaser.

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