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You might have already tried this but maybe frame the need with a business use case. I’ve learned that a lot of folks think program management is micromanaging and following them around with a clip board when really it’s necessary operations. Or as questions “out of curiosity” such as “who owns cross-department strategic alignment?” “Who has the holistic view of how the company executed on our OKRs across departments?” “What is our company-wide planning timeline and dependencies?”
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