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Considering our industry expects people to be responsive on PTO, this doesn’t seem that egregious.
This actually an amazing point. When I do get to take vacation time , I still have emails flying in nonstop and I know if I don’t answer them there are dozens of people lined up to take my spot.
Meanwhile hardworking GenXers are searching for work like crazy. 🤔 So youth over a solid work ethic? Is this where we are?
It’s not you’ve nailed this perfectly. It’s a fundamental shift in work culture that nobody seems to be able to get behind.
I’ve been advertising nearly 20 years, I ride xennial - millennial and gen x I’m 43, and I work no differently than I did in 2011. I’ve been hybrid remote since then with heavy travel. I work from so many odd places.
I think this stuff comes from industries outside of advertising that culturally have an issue with people having more freedom over their time.
When I started in this business, one of the things that attracted me to it is that I could control my time more vs other businesses. I had tons of work to do. I had to be in 10 places at once, but I was the one who could dictate where I was going to be, and what was a must (war rooms, pre pros etc).
If we had a couple weeks of long slog days, Shoots, etc , no agency I ever worked at had an issue with sending people home early on a Friday or telling them to take the Monday off without putting it in the system after working a pitch all weekend. A lot of people complain about this business, but I’ve worked for about a dozen agencies, many of them top shops, and they all had excellent handle on letting people manage their own time because the nature of the work is if you’re engaged in good at it, you’re probably working 50 to 60 hours a week min.
Those of us that have been in this business before Covid all know that many of us operated this way before Covid. It’s just it got really in focus when every industry discovered that tethering knowledge workers to an office was kind of an old way of thinking and that they could be productive and do things with people not at central location.
Just leave us alone already.
Headline tweak - Millennials ‘are finally living their lives’ instead of asking their boss for permission: It’s like everyone just woke up and realized there is more to life than a computer screen, food and sleep’. Shocker.
This is nothing new. It’s called remote for a reason. We aren’t tied to one location. I have done my work all over the country. My spouse travels and I sometimes join and work from wherever we are while they have meetings or property tours. Then we go out at night and have fun. It’s not quiet vacationing. It’s living our lives.
I had a nice quiet vacation last month for 5 days. First it was quiet quitting, now we're at quiet vacationing. I can only conclude that employers must be deaf if everything is so quiet? What they fail to realize is that the 'work around' culture will always prevail. Simple as that. You introduce stuff, expect people to find loopholes.
are you going to post the article? confused as to whether this is working from another location because you’re spending time with fam or need to travel for a wedding or something (which seems good and tbh pretty normal) or pretending to be on the clock but being unavailable
Yeah I do it occasionally. I just frontload as much work as possible so there's nothing much to do that week. I work without a partner which makes it a lot easier though.
I'm not going to lie I have totally done it. I wasn't able to get a week off last July to go with my family to Gulf Shores so I just "worked" while I was in Gulf Shores LOL Nobody suspected a thing.
Victory! Except for the "worked" part.