For those of you that worked at an abnormally toxic agency…how long did it take for you to recover? I start a new job and only gave myself a few days off in between. I am terrified my burned out bad attitude is going to follow me. For example…right now…I hate everyone. This is not my norm.

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It’s been 4 years and the trauma still lingers.

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Thanks! Our bigger problem than the Head of People was the CD. She had a way of making people, even those at ACD level, feel like they didn’t know anything about what they were doing. I’ve seen my seniors cry, colleagues who had family and friends waiting for their birthday party be in office till midnight, people miss anniversary nights. All to stay and be bullied. If we can move on and recover from this level of toxicity , it is possible. I have hope for you! Hang in there!

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Going on almost 3 years and I still often sit back and think, wow I should not have worked there as long as I did. Trauma absolutely still lingers. Still get surprised when I'm treated with respect

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I feel that way about the job I am leaving. I used to always tell my friend at work that I was in one of those toxic romantic relationships with my job. They would push me to my brink…but when I had opportunities to leave…I could only think about the good times 🤮. Anyway…I’m finally out.

The gift that lasts a lifetime! In all seriousness, therapy is the way to help you navigate this. I’m still working through it.

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Therapy is the way to go! It’s not just work being toxic!

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Took me like 5-6 years to

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i never will, but i don't consider it "trauma" it's more growth, learning etc. just make sure you believe you have the right takeaway and keep your head up

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I had a strategist that was quick to play the game of “how do I get everyone on this call against the account team” it was wild…I have never seen it from any other person…made me question my own self awareness. All my peer reviews were good though 🤷‍♀️. Anyway…

2 years now and I feel like I’m only half way there.

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