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What are your thoughts .... just curious
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This man knows what's up
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Ok. Which of you Trumpers did this?
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Do as I say, not as I do
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The Republican Party died when Trump was elected. It is now the MAGA party.
It’s on their front page
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You’re referring to their web site I presume. As in, reading. OP is talking about their cable channel, where far more people get their news.
So far it seems the response is “Raffensperger should be punished for leaking”
Don't pretend like you actually listened to the whole thing. You glanced at a few headlines while scrolling and maybe skimmed half a paragraph before making this post. If you listened to it, you would know the 11k votes comment was in the context of "here are the reasons why XYZ groups of ballots should be disqualified, totaling 200k-300k. I only need 11k."
Some of those groups of ballots he discussed are ones without addresses, ones from a PO box, ones where the person tried to again in person, and ones with forged signatures.
You can disagree with his position but it's dishonest to condense a 1 hour long call to "lol he just asked them to steal the election for him"
Rising Star
“Beelzebub, give all of Biden’s votes to me...to meeeee...to MEEEEEEEE” *enter Don Jr with epic guitar solo*
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Well that’s just not really true. The WSJ essentially broke the story, Fox News is covering it and the National Review has several stories on it, just from what I’ve seen in the past 12 hrs. I don’t think it has any effect on the senate races—do you think anybody planning on voting for Perdue/Loeffler is seeing that and going “oh wow, I need to switch my vote to the Democrats”? It’s all water under the bridge at this point
i just finished listening to the entire call. every second. i’m a registered democrat, but very open to the idea of potential fraud (i see the stuff jovan pulitzer said as possible).
here’s my perspective:
- taken out of context, pieces are damning...the specific pieces the media pulled out. but honestly, he wasn’t saying “find this many votes” he was saying “i need this many at least, but we found so much, so geez, if you found just that much, that is all i need”.
- trump doesn’t seem to know where his data is coming from. he gets it in pieces from his people, but doesn’t understand the whole story. it puts him in the position of just saying “no, you don’t know what you’re saying” when told that people have researched, audited, and found no fraud.
- trump needs to let his lawyers speak. or whomever the woman was on the phone on his side. he kept contradicting her and undercutting her claims.
- this was the longest i’ve listened to him speak straight through, so maybe it’s just him...but he sounded scattered and like he was grasping at straws, like he didn’t know what he was claiming and had no real evidence other than “people are saying this” and “rumors are” (verbatim said the second thing)
- he only seems to believe the “truth” is he won, not that the truth is the truth. he has no evidence for why he should’ve won, only that he can’t believe he lost. (sounds like HRC in 2016)
so, i don’t think this is watergate, but it was one of the most childish, insecure exchanges i’ve ever heard from an adult, much less the leader of the free world.
SA1 - agreed, across that whole message.
re: pulitzer - it was more about the potential misreading of the ballots and why some ballots in some counties had a barcode on them and others didn’t. not that i think that’s evidence of fraud, but it should be standardized and should be answered.
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And today as GA’s election official, Gabriel Sterling, debunked every single one of trump’s conspiracy theories- literally point by point, Fox covered the mask-wearing practices of Congress today. Unbelievable.
Chief
Perdue is focused on the leak vs. what Trump actually said. Georgia should pick the senate candidates carefully.
https://crooksandliars.com/2021/01/sen-perdue-more-disgusted-call-leak-trump