6 lost pitches in the last 3 months.

I feel bad, but then again I don’t.

likefunny
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

You can always leave Grey

likefunny

Seems like a lot of pitches these days are won by leadership’s relationship/impression. The creative seems to matter less and less. So the moral is don’t feel bad if you lose, and don’t trust it if you win 😂😂😂

likefunny

I mean creative should be a big part of why a pitch is one but there are a ton of other, equally important aspects including the quality of the relationship, ability to take direction, capabilities etc.

Wish you would post the Agency for everyone. Sounds like 180LA to me 😆

likefunny

They keep blaming it on the fee, but is that really the reason?

likefunny

D5 1 I’ve seen that deck. Pretty funny when you have to try and execute, isn’t it.

like

For those who are saying that the fee isn’t the reason that agencies are losing pitches are mistaken. More often than not right now, it is all about the financial negotiations and not really about the work. Budgets are shrinking all around and some agencies are so desperate for clients that they will offer them deals that don’t even allow them to break even. They bet on being able to upsell and gain incremental work, but it’s a terrible strategy given today’s economy. VW is a great example of this

like

On the bright side, better to lose pitches than clients. 🤷‍♂️

like

Lol true... but if you’re doing both?! Whew boy

likefunny

With so many clients choosing 5-7 finalists, there’s a lot of lost pitches going around. It’s BS.
On the bright side, could be here in SF where you constantly win things that turn out to be nothing. The money goes away, or the client makes their own campaign, etc.

like

Omg you’ve worked with google too?

likefunny

Before we pitch we always assess where we sit going in. There are fewer and fewer legit pitches going on, meaning you’re often a data point versus a real contender. Also, often there’s a favorite but the pitch has to happen to make procurement happy. And, sometimes you lose because of client politics, having nothing to do with the pitch.

like

Same...

You can always leave Publicis

Related Posts

Hi,can someone help me in this . What is going to be the in hand monthly salary after all deductions?Tia!!

Post Photo
like

Any Sydney-based golfing fish in the bowl?

I recently got Zepp. I dont think its worth it and about to return; its all relative and i hit shitty ball and it give me a good score...

Anybody get to play golf for work?

like

Playing my first round of the year tomorrow. For those living in places with snow, golf season is finally here!

like

Are you a member of a club or do you just play casually?

like

Any flats near Kubdalahalli?

like

S&P Global Hey IHS markit S&P global people's, what should be the designation for yoe :5 , tech stack .net developer with angular They offered level 6, Software Engineer designation at Markit India services pvt Ltd Is it good or designation is regarded Current designation in Capgemini is Associate Consultant IHS Markit S&P Global

like

What's the biggest stereotype about the marketing industry?

like

Hello.. i have 6 years of experience in frontend development. I have offer of 27.5 from Nagarro (client to be decided yet) and 30 from HCL Technologies (apple client and work location also apple) and 26 from Netcracker Technology Corp. maybe with some joining bonus. Which do you think I should join.

like

PwC fish: how can I do an in-service transfer of my after-tax 401k contributions to my Roth IRA? I was planning to roll them over after I leave the firm but saw in other thread that we allow in-servic

like

Hi fellow 🐟, I am new here and looking to make friends.

If anyone has any advice or tips it would all be greatly appreciated by an ATX newcomer :)

like

Making a cross country move from Chicago to ATX, any recommendations on how? Moving company recos very much welcomed!

like

What percentage of your monthly pay do you invest in the stock market? Complete noob trying to get started with investing. I already max out 401k and have a rainy day find in place.

like

I have around 5.9 years of experience
Got opportunity from singapore suggested salary is 7500 to 8000 sgd
Im married and expecting a baby .indian ctc is 16 lpa .is it good option to move?

helpful

Planning a trip to Bali with my bf. He’s never been on a long flight like that but we are probably planning a 2week vacation. What areas should we stay at?? we’re beach bums but I also love the forest/Hiking and a big foodie!

like

Staying at a Hilton in NC and discovered a massive blood stain on one of the pillows after one night. The stain was clearly there before I arrived, but I did not notice until the next day. How many points?

like

Idk why but for some reason the Michael Kors dress shirts from tj Max's fit me better than anything...I guess my one talent is fitting into cheap shirts.

like

Additional Posts in Advertising Confessions

I had a dream about being naked in the office. Even my dreams are clichéd!

likefunny

Being a bigger fish in this smaller shop is equal parts awesome and awful.

like

I’m not a big thanksgiving person. I’m not ungrateful, I kinda just go thru the motions. Except this past year had more motion than usual. Shit went bad. It hurt. I fell apart. One of my only stable forces was my job. I didn’t think about it at the time. I am now. It would be weird tell my team this, a lot of personal details would have to be explained, and I’d cry, so I’m saying it here instead. I am thankful for my team. I am thankful for my desk. I am thankful for the same meetings I complain about. Even when I’m only ‘responding without comments’, I’m still thankful.

like

I’m struggling. I left an agency I liked last year due to growth limitations and since then I’ve worked at 2 different agencies and can’t seem to find my footing. The first one seemed like a good fit at first but then it turned out to not be the best place for me so I left. At my current agency I feel super undervalued. I’m always raising my hand and offering to help where I can and no matter what I do, I don’t feel utilized or valued or part of the team.It’s really taken a toll on my confidence

like

Anyone have more info?

Post Photo
like

I’m exhausted with having to educate colleagues on what we do. I know we’re specialists as producers, but we work in the same industry, people. There has to be a modicum of knowledge and understanding with the agency process from top to bottom. And if you don’t have the experience, PLEASE don’t tell me how something should be done.

like

I always freak out when any boss wants to talk to me. Could be good, but I’ve also had the unexpected bad convo. Hate that I always expect the worst.

like

Digital killed the advertising business.
Agree or Disagree?

like

I late night drunk made and ate a salad yesterday. #adulting

like

Does anyone really, really love their job? Or do you just do it to pay bills and get to the weekend? I'm curious how many people actually truly love what they do

like

Pretty sure everyone knows I’m stoned rn

likefunnyuplifting

When you have a really good interview on Friday and they say “look out for an update pretty soon”

*Refresh* *Refresh* *Refresh*

Already mid Monday and second guessing myself.

like

I totally just got crop dusted! I freaking hate open office floor plans.

likefunnyuplifting

for all time travelers who came back to 2020, please break the sequence we all win!

likefunny

5 years in and I haven’t had a single idea. What am I doing here? 😞

like

I don’t get paid to write advertising. I get paid to sit through meetings like these. Kill me.

like

This open office plan sucks. Besides the constant din, we've got 3 agencies crammed on to one floor, sharing conference rooms and huddle rooms. Agency identity is lost and it feels like an ad factory

likesmartfunny

I just accepted an offer for a smaller niche shop in a smaller city and I'm so pumped about it. Hardly a confession, but I don't really have that many people I can share my excitement w/ before I quit

likeuplifting

I wake up every night holding my breath lmao. Idk if that’s classic sleep apnea or if my body is subliminally trying to off itself while I’m not paying attention.

funnylike

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal