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The “yes, but” crowd is out of control.
Breona Taylor was murdered in her sleep? “Yes, but something about dating a drug dealer? Six months ago? Or something?”
Alt-right protesters murdered a police officer? “Yes, but they had the best of intentions and it was an accident and boys will be boys and blah blah blah.”
To answer OP’s question, apparently the answer is an emphatic NO. We absolutely CANNOT agree that the murder of a police officer is wrong, because terrorist apologists on the right require their definition of justice to be asymmetric.
I’m condemning the action that caused the outcome...all of the many cases of those actions. And one can’t come back and say “but no one died in those cases”.
Yes, but...
This has been a bit blown out of proportion through retelling. The officer was not “beaten to death.” There is a video believed to be the altercation, which lead me to believe an intent to harm, not kill.
A disgruntled man took a fire extinguisher and threw it into a crowd of helmeted cops who were grappling with protestors. It bounced off a helmet, launching into the back of Sicknick’s unhelmeted head (he was in the middle of the group).
The guy who threw the extinguisher was captured on camera with a semi-horrified look as he walked away. He appears to have thrown it from ~10ft to hurt someone, but the outcome is murder.
NYPost, as a tabloid, had no qualms about posting the video... https://nypost.com/2021/01/11/video-shows-capitol-rioter-hit-officer-with-fire-extinguisher/amp/
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Hey EY3, did anybody die or get injured? Are you so dense as to not see a GLARINGLY DIFFERENT outcome here, which makes it completely incomparable?
This is also why we have manslaughter and 1, 2, 3 degree murder and attempted murder. They are all different charges depending on circumstance. I would actually argue that attempted murder would be weak if they threw it nowhere near anybody. The key is to establish intent. Hard to disprove intent to harm when you knowingly throw it in a crowd (which maga did in fact do) And then of course somebody actually dies from it. Idk if he deserves a murder charge but he for sure deserves manslaughter at the very least
So it’s manslaughter or reckless homicide instead of murder? Seems like a fine line, particularly when dealing with domestic terrorists.
Grown ass men should be held responsible for their domestic terrorist actions.
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Period, same ppl calling for lethal use of force only a few months ago against protestors now are on a apology tour for actual terrorists and cop killers.
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Just lol at Trump coming out today (and other republicans) that impeachment is a “DaNgER to cunTRy”. If you want to know what the issue is? That’s the issue in a nutshell. 5 people died and a pro-trump mob stormed the capitol violently hoping to subvert the democratic process to their will due to years of insane fascistic rhetoric. 5 people died. Like no...you do not get to just do that and call for “unity” a day later lol There needs to be consequences. We can unify after this BS is completely purged and people in leadership positions take realbresponsibility for their rhetoric
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Question for you, is it possible to condemn the violence that killed Brian Sicknick while at the same time advocate not holding those responsible for the riot accountable?
A1 I just want to hear people say (regardless of where they fall on the guilt of the instigators responsible) that the actual people who were there are indefensibly at fault. That this wasn't a one-off or a handful of bad people but a crowd of folks at blame.
I agree with everything you're saying - now please just leave it for the other threads.
So Sicknick died of natural causes, which was contrary to what the MSM told us. Why we don’t trust the media