I keep running in to the same issue. I’m telling someone something I know for a fact to be right and my male peers tell me they don’t think I’m right. I provide examples, I stay calm, and they still tell me they think things I’ve seen with my own two eyes are incorrect, that I didn’t understand what happened, they “don’t know about that”, don’t think what I saw was a pattern it’s just a coincidental one offs, etc. I’m beyond frustrated. After getting multiple outside viewpoints I’m pretty

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What field are you in? I find that some minds are trained to doubt everything.

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Thank you!

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certain this is partly because my peers have been lead for many years by someone who allowed a tremendous amount of group think to exist on the team and gave very little challenge or direct feedback. But I also don’t want to ignore the possibility that I’m doing something to provoke this reaction. For the life of me, I cannot figure out how to change this. HELP.

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Thank you for the input. I have tried both of those things. When I ask for explanation, they either just repeat themselves or explain how I’m viewing it the wrong way. Example, I have two employees that are walking the line of dress code with their hair color (reddish purple but sometimes going to purple) and have been talked to by their manager multiple times. Today during a meeting, a manager on the other team came in with the same hair color and it looked purple from the front. I brought it up to my peer and said I was bringing it up because of the issue we’re having with the associates, one of which was at the same meeting. When I told him her hair looks purple from the front, he said “eeeehhh” and shrugged as to suggest it didn’t. It’s freaking PURPLE. It’s not an easy color to leave up to interpretation. And I’ve had multiple one on ones with the peers in question. Most made little or no change in their behavior. In fact one got worse.

Sounds like classic male gaslighting which can actually be somewhat subconscious due to the bro culture reinforcement in many companies. The downside is, unless you have a strong senior level exe advocate in your pocket, who can acknowledge this and help champion change, there is not much you can do on your own. It also sounds like your frustration is greater that your peers. It may be a great time to change departments if you can or even move on to your next step rather than trying to fix broken. Good luck and stay strong.

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Thank you for this. We actually just had a new boss take over and I’ve got a fantastic relationship with him, and based on a recent convo I do expect him to initiate change. Thank you for this input!

This happened to me at my old job. I ended up leaving but in hindsight I should have pulled the main person aside and expressed my concerns

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Well, it’s multiple people, and I’ve discussed the issue with all of them individually. Minimal if any improvement from most, a couple made huge improvements.

Hm, I have seen this in my industry (hospitality) which is close to retail sales in some ways…

In general I would say if it’s a group of people in a similar level, have a meeting collectively to address it. Re-address what you’re trying to drill down on (ie: uniform standards) and then ask for questions. Allow them to have a neutral space to put their POV out and answer any questions/clarify the company’s vision. Have your boss or HR attend so they know it’s serious. (Or even see if HR can put together a refresher presentation to get everyone on the same page).

I know it’s bringing in the big guns but you have to chop off the snake at the head otherwise it will get worse.

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