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Product Management at a large bank vs Business Analytics/S&O for FAANG? Recently started in the former role, but have interview calls for the latter just come up in my mailbox. Similar comp when adjusted for the different job locations. Can anyone help me with the Pros and Cons please. I know the roles are different, and so are the industries, need to understand difference career paths and difference in corporate cultures. JPMorgan Chase Google LinkedIn Citi
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Personally, remote work has really affected my long-term career opportunities and growth path. You are best in an office, even if its hybrid if you are looking to grow your career. In addition, if you are able to travel to the office, consider going into the office for a few days a month and do it consistently so people expect and get used to you being there, say the first or last week of the month.
How do you envision being "visible" in the office? I have not worked in the same office as my manager for 5 years before COVID. None of the decision makers were ever in the same office as me. Forced "catch up" meetings are equally effective in person and via zoom/teams. Your manager and team members are (IMHO) your best bet - if they hear your request ("help me be visible - please invite me to discussions that can help me understand the organization better/get in front of people in XYZ") - you MAY succeed. If they do not - being in the office is unlikely to make a difference (unless you work for a small firm where everyone actually is in the same office). Don't buy into the narrative that office = career growth, collaboration, rainbows and unicorns.
Agreed. Find a sponsor. Do good work and be recognized for something. Reap what you sow by asking for what you want.
If they don’t value you then on you go.
Mentor
Unfortunately, your best bet is to”touch base”
Or “happy hour” meetings with key people… which sucks cuz nobody likes extra meetings without a purpose.
I firmly believe that remote work will continue to decline. If you’re in a city that has hybrid or onsite roles, you may want to look at those roles.
I’m sure that’s right around the corner with the current administration
Here are some good ideas ChatGPT came up with:
1.Actively participate in virtual meetings by sharing insights, asking questions, and offering solutions.
2. Volunteer for high-visibility projects or cross-functional teams to showcase your skills beyond your immediate team.
3. If possible, lead or present during meetings to demonstrate leadership and expertise.
4. Schedule virtual coffee chats with colleagues, mentors, and senior leaders to build rapport.
5.Engage in company Slack channels, email discussions, or internal social platforms to stay visible.
6. Find a sponsor or mentor who can advocate for you when promotion discussions arise.
7. Demonstrate Impact and Leadership
8. Document your work and create reports showcasing how your efforts benefit the company.
9. Take initiative in solving problems, streamlining processes, or mentoring others to position yourself as a leader.
I hope these help😊
Duh; my company prefers hiring remote so they can save in OPEX with the carrot "hey don't ask for raise, you know how many people will die for a remote role?" 🤡
Yes! You are allowed to believe that. May I have your job? I've been looking for one myself. I actually enjoy writing manuals and reviewing documents and contracts without being pulled into
"Did you hear what Thing 1 said to Thing 2? Oh my gawd, I know right? I mean, let's be so for real about this."
No thanks, not again please.
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Majority of the time one has to interview for promotions
It helps being around in person to do informal adhoc discussions. Without it all communication becomes transactional and surely does not give you a lot of advantage unless you are top notch. And even then, for people its out of sight/out of mind. So slowly you will tend to become out of touch.
Depending on your current situation it might be worthwhile to do a quarterly visit to headquarters or wherever a majority of the key decision makers work. That way they can put a face with a name and you can use that time to have a deeper conversation with them
Out of sight, out of mind.
I find that remote hasn't hurt my networking at all. This is mainly due to the fact that I've focused on delivering on the tasks or goals on my main projects. As long as I keep doing that, the leadership has usually not left me behind during the hard times. It does pay to be vocal though. We have online water coolers at my job where people jump in regularly. As far as the imposter feeling.... every day of my job I wait for someone to drop something on my desk that is beyond my reach. I think that's pretty much the way it is for most folks.
Can you describe how the online water coolers work? Structure, cadence, description?
I totally get it why you feel like you are invisible when it comes to promotions and career progression when working remotely. There are bunch of things you can do to make yourself visible while working from home. I wrote the following post mentioning some tips to handle this. I hope you will like it 🙏
https://remotewinners.com/lack-of-visibility-leading-to-fewer-promotion-opportunities/