Unethical curiosity: when I was younger I often heard when women got promoted “oh she sleeps with her boss” or nasty remarks like that. Now I have 10+ years of experience in different big and small firms but like never saw any sign “sleep with me and you will get promoted”. How does it work? Did this change over the years?

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What you saw was jealousy and projection. People don't sleep with their boss to get ahead. Give women some credit for godsakes

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Bc back then they thought women couldn’t succeed themselves. They assume women use their “sexual powers” to get ahead

Depending on how old you are, you might have been working before the 1980s, when sexual harassment laws changed. Back then it wasn’t uncommon that your male boss would call you into his office and tell you that if you wanted a promotion you had to sleep with him. That kind of behavior is now illegal, and I haven’t heard of it happening in my own career.

Besides quid pro quo sexual harassment, you’re likely listening to sexist rumors designed to discredit a woman’s professional success and not actual reality. In today’s world sleeping with your boss isn’t going to help your career, it’s going to tank it.

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Thank you for sharing a little bit of history. Now I think I heard it from people who indeed were in workforce before 80s, but I have started working after so there is no such thing. I agree on career tanking if you sleep with your boss.

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A friend told me a story about the local government “scandal”. There was a local government position where there was someone (who happened to be female) who went from making $40,000 annually to making nearly $100,000 doing the same job. I think she was some sort of office manager reporting to a male boss.

This was a government role where all salaries had to be posted and approved by local government officials. So, everyone knew about the salary change.

Shortly after the posting both the office manager and her boss (male) left their positions. The rumor was that these two were dating or something.

It could have been something as simple as the office manager finished her masters, so the salary is changing. But that tidbit wasn’t in the report. And no one could understand why that position salary changed that drastically.

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Thank you for sharing. It is suspicious 🤨 but also dumb as the salary is public.

It rarely happens anymore, but the term has always loosely been used as it pertains to favoritism. Also promotions don't happen in the straight line up a clearly defined ladder like it used to. In the day when this was even contemplated, a lot of people worked at the same company for decades - and got promoted when their boss did. So among a group of people, there would be competition for the boss' job once that boss moved on or out. Now tenure has very little to do with it compared to experience. And many intermediate job titles are created, with traditional span of control almost non existent anymore compared to matrix structures, very flat structures, and flexible project teams.

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Thank you. Very well explained. ❤️

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