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Prosecution is considering charging the parents of the student that committed the school shooting in Michigan. The parents just bought the gun and if the parents were negligent in storing / locking up the gun I think this is a very reasonable move.
I don't think parents are responsible when the school shooter gets the weapons outside of the house or when the parents have made a minimum effort to secure their weapons. But the school had just met with them on son's behavior too.
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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/583949-parents-of-oxford-shooting-suspect-may-fac
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I think it’s actually process changes.
From status quo job applications ——-> Interviewer blind to the name and color of applicant until selection round.
From status quo policing —-> uniform transparent processes around killing of citizens by cops with fast judicial review.
From status quo zoning ——> affordable housing being measured on the city AMI, not the neighborhood AMI.
From status quo neighborhood boards——> elimination of HOAs
From status quo election scheduling ——> election holiday
And many more...
I think there is no one single metric that can encompass everything in the sense of “systemic racism.”
For those seeking to end this, the first step is to compile a list of laws and institutional rules that are inherently racist and document their racist outcomes. They will then need to think through the trade offs of removing those laws/ rules and come up with alternatives that accomplish the positive outcomes of the laws/ rules in their current state without the negative racist outcomes.
Once they have this evidence and plan, it will most likely be through the court system where these battles play out. This may seem unfair and hard, but it is the way lasting change has been enacted. If you think the benefits of this country are worth staying for and that the battle is worth it, it will be waged and won.
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For starters, black parents shouldn’t be having to have conversations with their children to explain to them they have to basically live a certain way bc the color of their skin
I get that, but how is that measurable? Like are we going to determine racism levels based on what black parents tell their kids? There needs to be more robust metrics.
Wealth inequality by race
@OP yes I strongly believe society would be less racist against black, Hispanic and native Americans if they had more wealth. BLM is not only angry about police brutality, but also about generations of oppression (sharecropping, redlining, etc) that directly impacted the wealth gap today (black Americans have 10% of the generational wealth of white Americans. 10%!!! That’s nothing.) if the latter were solved, there would be less of an us vs them mentality. Reparations might be the only way to do it, which would make racism worse for several years, but once the growing pains were over we’d be in a better spot IMO
When a person of color is (a) as likely as a white person to survive an interaction with the police; and (b) is as likely as a white person not to be detained or arrested.
OP, yea you could have racism even while having sentencing equality. But for the sake of showing trend, I think that could work.
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1. Wealth disparity
2. Imprisonment / sentencing disparities
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KPMG 1 ... these statistics don't show the true story behind them. Please read this United Nations report on racial disparities in the U.S. criminal justice system to better understand what is driving these statistics.
https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-disparities/
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What version of history they are being taught
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This. Teach real history. Sample the most widely used textbooks and curricula.
I’d think you would start by polling the constituencies that have historically been subject to racism and discrimination to see if they believe it has been solved.
https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019/04/09/race-in-america-2019/
It isn’t the be-all and end-all, but seems like a critical component, particularly for something that is as experiential as racism. It is probably best described as necessary but insufficient.
OP - are you trying to reach an underlying point here that unless we use specific metrics, racism will be a moving goalpost that is used to push a political narrative?
If so I think it is a valid point. I made a similar point in another thread that without specific ways of measuring progress, the country will remain at odds and even worse, not know what pursuits are bridging the divide.
I also have seen this point abused pretty badly to back no action at all. “If we cannot measure racism it must not exist or we cannot do anything about it.” Which is wrong as well
Agreed with OP. Take for example unconscious bias trainings, which for the most part have been found to be ineffective. Are we going to continue to push them and feel like we are achieving something? That will only have the negative outcome of believing that we are hopelessly racist when there is no change in behavior.
Instead, we need outcome measures so we can course correct based on the effectiveness of our approach.
Odd one......crime by race even out
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Former Georgetown Law Professor David Cole stated in his book No Equal Justice:
"These double standards are not, of course, explicit; on the face of it, the criminal law is color-blind and class-blind. But in a sense, this only makes the problem worse. The rhetoric of the criminal justice system sends the message that our society carefully protects everyone’s constitutional rights, but in practice the rules assure that law enforcement prerogatives will generally prevail over the rights of minorities and the poor. By affording criminal suspects substantial constitutional rights in theory, the Supreme Court validates the results of the criminal justice system as fair. That formal fairness obscures the systemic concerns that ought to be raised by the fact that the prison population is overwhelmingly poor and disproportionately black."
Uniform laws and regulations that don’t discriminate by race, sex, or religion. If the goal is equal outcomes for all we no longer are individuals.
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Ask Black people. As a white person: racism is in the fabric of our nation. It is not a problem that can be boiled down to an objective set of metrics to be process improved. A good start is a common understanding of historical events. Since we are talking about #s, that might be measred by a sample of the most widely used books and curricula and the historical accuracy. I also like the post above about resumes and who gets hired when names are blinded. Criminal justice is huge with comparing sentences for crimes. However, I think the best people to ask and spend time discussing with are Black Americans.
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