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I am serving notice period and my LWD is 9 January 2023. I am looking for job change and it will be really very kind of you all if anyone can you refer me.
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Hey! Any Google folks know if it’s possible to negotiate fully remote if a contract role is hybrid? Personally, I don’t want to relocate and go to the office on a contract role given the current economy. Plus, I’m assuming contractors are the first to go in layoffs. I just think it’s a fair trade off if I’d be allowed to work fully remote. I’m also trying to have flexibility to manage my Airbnb business in a different country. Same time zone as the home office if I’d travel weeks at a time.
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Don’t mention another employee. Go with data about current market rates and your accomplishments and expanded tasks since you started. Go with a case study presentation of internal work and/or a collection of positive feedback and quotes you’ve gotten from colleagues about your work. I did this and first got a 6% increase with no title change and a few months later another 10% on top of that with a title change. I also let them know I really wanted to grow where I was and could see other people having to leave their roles for growth and I didn’t want to have get what I needed from somewhere else. Have I actually met my very reasonable target salary goal yet? No, but a 16% raise without having to leave is a pretty big deal. And my manager is already talking with me about how to get promoted again. I know new people make more than I do but you’ll get snubbed if you bring that up. I tried putting all my job search efforts into making a promotion case at my current company instead of externally and so far it’s working well. My manager also told me nobody has ever done so much leg work to help them fight for an employee promotion before and that it was a huge help.
No, bringing up someone else’s pay is not a good strategy nor is it considered to be good leverage. New employees pretty much always make more. And chances are, this person negotiated better than you. Also, how much more is this person making? 5%? 20%? That matters. If it’s a lot more, I would just look for a new job. You can’t really negotiate salary after you’ve already accepted the offer and started working. You’ll get your regular 2-5% yearly raises but that’s about it.
And this is why they give you your paycheck in a sealed envelope, and company adequate asks that you do not share what you make with other people that you work with. How many times do I have to tell you and my grown kids that all your coworkers are not your friends. They are coworkers, they are not your friends you have friends, you don’t need any friends where you work. You have to learn to keep a compassionate distance from people that you work with, judge some favorably, but you have enough friends, FRIENDS are friends, and business is business.
So true! Given the chance they will throw you under the bus! I had to tell my current boss that the last boss who she took his place was sexually harassing me. At that moment she basically laughed at me right in my face. I was so angry! As a boss he slap my asset at other times he would pull me closer to him and then if someone walked by his office he push his chair back from me. None of them believed me and then a new contractor came in and I was told they didn't need me. So that was my last job. I was devastated! I will handle iy differently if it ever happens again!
You should definitely bring it up. You might get an adjustment out of it, or at least an explanation for what's going on. They might have more education or experience, which could be a factor, or maybe they just negotiated harder. But either way, there's no harm in asking questions.
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Agree. 100%
Experience and SKILLS will get you noticed and ATTITUDE will play a vital role, the other person may have more EXPERIENCE and works well with others, might come in early or does something that the Bosses or Supervisor sees and that how that person is earning more, keep a POSITIVE ATTITUDE and prove your worth, Good Luck
With that type of ATTITUDE, I see why you're bitter, what skills do you bring to the table, how many years of EXPERIENCE do you have, you didn't mention anything about it, have you spoken to HR or anyone else, being respectful and mindful of how you approach you're higher-ups might help, if you're not happy where you're at, Don't quit until you find another job
People do successfully use internal pay comparisons, but the key is to reframe it as a fairness and value conversation rather than a complaint. Managers are more receptive when you emphasize your contributions and the company’s commitment to equity, rather than focusing on what someone else earns.
I don’t know that I would bring it up. There are a ton of factors unknown, and they aren’t going to willingly share all of them. Focus on what you can do to make more there outside of what other people make.
There may be a reason, but bring it up and ask what you need to do for parity.
No. Start searching for a new position. Exit interview? Explain exactly why you are leaving.
I've done that as well and I regretted it. So the next time we had a pay raise my boss told me to ask higher. So when I did he reluctantly gave it to me I deserved it! Especially when I heard what others were making and I found out so I didn't feel bad after that but then she got angry because I was making more than her husband. That kind of threw me but oh well!
This exact conundrum gets posted monthly, if not more often than that. On average wages go up over time, and raises do not generally keep up with that growth, so hiring date absolutely matters. More importantly, some people are better at negotiating comp than others.
New people are supposed to get more, not less. Why do you think you deserve the same? Are you equally valuable as this person? How do you know? Let’s say they match your pay with this new person after you bring it up, if two months later another new person comes with even higher pay than you both, then what? Give the whole company a raise?
If you’ve never worked anywhere that paid new employees more, then either you’ve never had a real job at a real company or you are the one living in the fantasyland.
Nope you use this as the reason for leaving in your exit interview.