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A good product team can make an engineering team really look good by identifying the right things to build, and limiting scope to only what matters most.
A bad product team can lead even a great engineering team down a path of never ending mediocrity
Have you considered training yourself for the next level of development?
I've been in this business since PCs were invented and looking back, I always moved up to the next level. It provided me a new perspective and perch to work from. It was scary sometimes, but I never got bored.
Now, I am mentor to entry level, middle, and senior managers facing the same issues you are.
Once they get their feet back under them, they tend to see new paths to explore, grow, and succeed!
There's something out there for you to do and be fulfilled.
Yes I am.. I am sooo depressed, disconnected and my life totally changed coming into this field, I dont know what to do. I have huge burn out.. and it’s sooo bad many times I just cry because my brain hurts. I want to leave this all behind, all the hard work, I’ll even go down in salary.. I just want my old life back, I just want to be happy. Peace and love.
This is something I've been thinking about as well. I got into this field when I was 19, I'm 26 now and also super depressed. My idea of happiness has changed so much. I used to think it was having a good job, good salary, friends and the occasional nice purchase. Yet I'm the unhappiest I've been, meanwhile my best friend works in a vitamin shop and he's the happiest person I know. I want that, no matter the job. Part of me regrets getting into this field at all, sure I may make more than all of my friends but money isn't worth anything when you're not happy.
Rising Star
I’m just waiting to accumulate enough money and then flip to more chill job with ok pay
Chief
I geniunely enjoy programming however the lack of respect and overall nastiness you encounter in this field is draining. Even with open source, you can run into a lot of entitlement and negativity.
I just got laid off from tech and I don’t think I’ll go back
So why not learn a new skill as a plumber, etc either after work.or on the weekend once you get certified or pass the training then quit can get a job in your new field and then quit tech? Good luck
Yep you can work on the cert when not working if you really want to do it you can yes you may need experience but others have done it and do can you if you really want i don't know you but I believe if you really want yo move ftom.tech to something g else you can will it be easy or simple probably not but I fully beieve if anyone really wants to do something they can but as I am sure you are aware when you started tech it's hard when first starting and no experience you did it in tech you can certainly do it in other fields good luck if it helps I believe in you
Every day for the last two and a half years I've deeply regretted going into tech instead of learning a trade. I know a guy who runs a stucco company, I'm getting closer all the time to asking him to hire me. Trouble is I'm 37 and I'm likely to blow out my knees before working my way up to a pay level comparable to my current job.
You're working for the wrong company. I've been in the business for over thirty years and have been (for the most part) lucky and worked for companies that had some vague idea of what they wanted, and could put those ideas down IN WRITING in a coherent fashion. It never mattered to me how many heads were involved in WRITING the requirements, but once they were set, I could do design work to fit, code to the design, test the result, and hand the product over to SQA for final approval testing. I have had three bad companies, but all of them went "belly up" and I've not had to work for ANY of the shrapnel personnel since.
Yea, I've had some bad luck.
I am turning 60 this year and been in tech since 1995. Ready to get out at 65 and try and put my MBA to use finally and work as an adjunct at a college or university. Counting down the days.
Past 20 years, the US government has been gang up with companies to against US tech workers. The purpose:
¹ reduce prices
² eliminate entitlements, racism, control from American tech workers by replacing cheaper labor from foreign countries.
The question now is:
Do Indians Tech workers in US companies, don't practice racism and control behaviors?
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The caste system is deep-rooted. Lower castes will not get promotions.
https://techequity.us/2022/07/21/caste-bias-in-tech-recording/#:~:text=Caste%20bias%20and%20oppression%20can,caste%20discrimination%20goes%20largely%20ignored.
I turn 65 in 2030 and counting the days. Been in tech since the early 90s. On my birthday, if I haven’t been laid off I will happily turn in my resignation. Actually two weeks before so i can be done on my birthday.
I did think about it, and I did it. A few months ago I quit the tech industry and started teaching agile methodologies and new technology and I absolutely love it.
How did you do this?
Yep. 💯
I was done after about 34 years as a software developer and was depressed or deflated so much of that 34 years. In the last 3 years, I finally started making a salary I probably deserved much earlier in my career. I could have made a lot more had I kept going now that my salary was finally high enough, but I also had enough saved to quit and live a life quite a bit happier. I'm, in general, much happier. I guess you could say I'm retired but now I actually doordash at 59 years old and although I make peanuts doordashing, there's something to be said for being able to decide what days and what time I work, reporting to no one but myself. I like seeing all sorts of people and businesses and homes while I dash and when I don't want to deal with anyone (which happens more often than I care to admit), I can do that too. I understand this won't work for someone that has gotten used to a software developer salary and still has a young family or house payments or car payments, and not much saved yet, because you can't live off food delivery pay. This is just some side income to get me closer to real retirement ie when I can pull from retirement funds without penalty and can start Medicare, which isn't so far away for me. It's hard for me to advise someone young to get out of software development because of the salary, but, while you are still young, put some real effort into finding something that might give you a decent salary and make you much happier.
I have worked in the communications industry since 1996. Lol. I've seen the industry go from dial up only at businesses to a megabit at residential locations.
I have worked for one of two mom and pop companies in a small town the entire time. I don't have any official certs. Ive had some trouble keeping up with the technology.
Now one of those companies doesn't exist any longer and i just got permanent layoff from the other at 55. What the hell am i going to do now? Im ready to move somewhere warmer and finish out my 12 years to retirement. Not start over.
Yes, if I can turn back time, I would become a surgeon or anesthesiologist
Yes… the egos, the contrived urgency, the politics, and oh, the egos… I enjoy actual coding and building systems but am so sick of the rest of it. Been doing it 30 years, by the way.