2023 T3 grad not in BL with two offers to similar strong mid sized litigation firms. One of the firms asked me the name of the firm with the other offer, asked to meet me for coffee, called me, and then raised their offer without me asking. Is this normal recruiting for a third year? The persistent firm has better hours and better pay, but their recruiting is giving me pause because I didn’t think a firm would recruit a third year w no book of business this hard.

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What's wrong with them recruiting you hard? Good mid-levels are hard to find. It's not about having a book, it's about having the skills to do the work they need done without their needing to train/supervise.

I'm an 8th year taking a 30% salary bump to move firms bc new firm desperately needs senior level associates. New firm confirmed that any business I bring is purely bonus and not expected.

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Yes. I don't like it. They sound desperate for top talent and want to know who their competition is if someone else is willing to m pay more. If you'd accept the other offer they would ultimately find out who it was.

It's a red flag to me in so much as it will reflect on the partner you're working for or the office managing partner. I'd like to imagine that it's not just the HR department on their own volition asking these questions.

What created the opening at that firm? What is the tenure or associates? What is the ratio of associates to partners at the firm. I'd consider the foregoing questions when you contemplate accepting.

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