Managing attorneys in small firms - how much do you make?

I'm in South Florida. Currently a 6 year associate at a small firm (~12 attorneys, 55 staff). Making a move towards Managing Attorney position that they are considering hiring from outside the firm for. I'm going to make the case that they should promote from within and give me the position. I'm objectively a good candidate for it. Question is... what's a good salary for that position? What do you make? Thanks.

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Need more info. Is a Managing Attorney the same thing as a Managing Partner? Would you still be doing legal work?

Not a partner position. This firm does not offer partnership opportunities. It would be like a manager for the attorneys. Overseeing the attorneys, assisting the attorneys with questions and issues that may arise, intervene with client issues, etc. Not sure whether the owner would expect the person in that position to still do legal work. For an idea I currently make 164k as an associate attorney. I would expect higher as a managing attorney but dont know what is reasonable to ask for.

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