Had the partner in charge of the tax group I was previously in at a B4 firm email me encouraging me to apply for an opening with them (basically same role I was in before, but at a SM level).

The catch is, I was part of their COVID RIF layoffs in summer 2020, and don’t think I’ll forget that anytime soon. Do I just respond that I’m not interested, or do I politely make it clear I have zero interest in ever returning to the firm?

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Just got promoted to SM. I worked my ass off for this and am very proud. At the same time, my daily life is exactly the same - my role won’t change and I can’t celebrate because of COVID. Also, I feel guilty because I know so many people who have been laid off during this time. Any advice on how to enjoy this accomplishment and feel the excitement during this time?

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Was laid off by EY few weeks back, had 60 Days to find an employer and get them to apply H1B for me. Subtracting the h1b app time, roughly had 5 wks to land an offer in this economy. Landed a consulting offer and an offer from a small Bay Area Data firm for a TechCloud Product Manager (choosing this) I was able to exit consulting in 5 weeks, something I was trying for over 1.5 years. What worked? Going away from the FAANG mindset, look at sm/mid sized firms and being open!

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Just started as an analyst and I have no idea what I’m doing. Anxious all the time that I’m just a fraud. Only me and an SM on a project and I just worry I’m going to screw everything up and get fired.

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Anyone have any experience working at Capgemini? Looking to understand pros/cons, of the organization, career paths (SM and above), pay, etc. Recently laid off from a large Consulting Firm as a SM. Is Cap's SM level comparable?

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Hey friends, I was laid off (due to COVID) from Accenture a month ago as an analyst. I had a pretty good network of SM, MD and managers that I talked to frequently before. However once I was laid off, I got depressed and haven’t reached out to any of them. I feel horrible but I’m trying to push myself out of my depression and make some positive changes. My fear is that at this point, I’m just a number and that they don’t care. It’s causing me anxiety and I’m telling myself it’s too late now.

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Say you work at Accenture and are doing OK (haven't been laid off yet and have projects lined up). Also let's say that you have good skills in cloud infrastructure, which is plenty busy right now.

What would motivate you to accept a job offer at a tiny consulting firm (less than 300 people)?

Would a good raise and a promotion to Senior Manager be enough?

There are many risks involved with going to a tiny firm. What would it take for you make the jump and overcome concerns?

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Was put on PIP coz of last year's util%.
Currently having intermin above expectations in PIP. PIP POC says BPOC(SM I haven't worked with) fired on him for giving a good feedback and asked to set unrealistic expectations w/o - clarity in requirements, supporting docs(tho they have it) and feedback.
I have recorded the calls with PIP POC & coach telling that they can't go against BPOC and give a good feedback despite I meeting all the expectations.
Should I show the rcrding to MD/HR?

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Something’s been weighing on my mind. I messed up in a steering committee & tripped infront of the Sr. Client Stakeholders. I made a few other mistakes and was rolled off by my manager (SM) b/c I sucked and it was a higher burn engagement he needed a stronger BA. Now I find out he might’ve been laid off and I can’t help but to think it was my fault. We never really talked after this engagement but I feel like it’s my clumsiness that him fired and it makes me feel guilty and give a me anxiety.

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Laid off SM fish from Tech Strat..in open waters now..to get hunted.

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My recommender got laid off from the firm. What do I say for her description in the application portal? “Ex Senior Manager”? “Ex EY”??

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How much is too much reaching out? Some context: I’m on the bench and I spoke to my SM about my availability on a Monday. They say they will find me some work. But I don’t hear from him at all. When do I reach out and how often should I follow up until he actually gives me what I need. The layoffs here at Accenture has me stressing over WBS codes so much.

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How much is too much reaching out? Some context: I’m on the bench and I spoke to my SM about my availability on a Monday. They say they will find me some work. But I don’t hear from him at all. When do I reach out and how often should I follow up until he actually gives me what I need. The layoffs here at Accenture has me stressing over WBS codes so much.

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Fellow Fishes - I am seeking referral in Atlassian.. got laid off last week (SM, 15YOE) looking next gig actively. Thank You 🙏🏼

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I am 30 and just got promoted to Senior manager. I think I am doing well but I feel I am driven more by pessimism, imposter syndrome, and fear of getting fired as opposed to a positive mindset and the desire to thrive in my career. I feel like I am suffering from some sort of a mental issue but wanted to throw it out here and get some advice to deal with this from the fishbowl fam as opposed to going to therapy. Thanks in advance for your responses!

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Dallas tax layoffs - 9 in BTS (4 SM, 2 mgr, 3 staff). Int and SALT no layoffs yet but expecting EOW.

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Nobody has emailed me since last Thursday. Am I fired but just don’t know it? Escalation email asking for work to do to SM and Partner haven’t been responded to, nobody should be on PTO as far as the calendar says

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Is it appropriate to talk with your M and SM about your concern over layoffs? I want to talk to them about wanting to increase my workload and scope.

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Looking at a potential exit to Deloitte at Senior Manager level. Should I be concerned about the prospect of layoffs if we hit full on recession since I’ll be coming in new?

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SM here - if my work visa is not renewed, would I be eligible for severance?

Current non compete has 3 months of severance included

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Is up or out a real thing at DELOITTE? Is there like a general mark for each level for how long you can stay at that level before having to be promoted or laid off? More curious for the M and SM level

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Can a Senior Manager who otherwise has a good reputation, get fired for bullying? If not, will this person still make it to partner? There seems to be a lack of transparency in firms around this

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If I go back to my previous big 4 firm from D will people think it’s because of the layoffs? My former SM reached out and said I’m welcome back anytime....

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Serious question: should I do anything in response to a SM trying his damnedest to get me fired without cause?

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I just got laid off as an SC at Deloitte. I'm going to go work for a startup and when it gets acquired by Deloitte in 2 years I'll be a partner and fire the SM that got rid of me. Justice!

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When is the right time to leave a firm?
Firm isn't doing well with recent layoffs, leadership turnover, meh comp.

On the other hand I have excellent support and mentorship from M/SM I aligned........

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Current M at big 4. Oppty to move to a Director role(SM equiv) at a smaller firm with large layoffs 2 years ago but rebounding. 10% base bump, higher bonus target , more resp. Stay or go?

Found out a SM derailed my promotion this year. I'm on my way out to a better job & SM just got fired for being toxic. They want me to stay because of that. Should I reconsider? #profitsfirst

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I’m not waiting on the next season of Game of Thrones anymore! My project fills in for all that drama! 1 client stakeholder fired, 1 SM fired, 2 put on probation and they are taking about next phase🤣

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Came in to find out the pmo got fired just before holidays . The other manager tells me not to trust the senior manager , who actually was the one to staff me . Should I tell the senior manager ?

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It feels so good when your best friend is your senior manager and you build a case against a less senior manager then he is fired. Sucks but feels so good.

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Laid off today, would appreciate any advice for next steps for a senior manager

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Has anyone gotten laid off from one big4 and gone to another big4 and stayed there for several years to manager, senior manager position?

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My SM keeps joking about getting fired. Do you think that there is any validity to it?

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Heard about possible SM and MD layoffs today?

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Just heard that they may be a round of analyst layoffs in the west due to not enough projects and too many analysts being on the bench for too long. Source SM from the Midwest

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Five people in my group just got laid off-- 1 SM, 3 Ms, 1 C. Things are not looking good for me.

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Senior manager laid off without a reason-every manager and consultant loved her-a shock to everyone.

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If you get laid off as green card holder, do you have to go back to your home country? Can I take contract jobs while searching for full time?

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I got some good news that one of the accounting firms I associate with is starting hiring again for September 2020. If you have 3+ busy seasons with a Big 8 firm and were laid off or looking for work, feel free to message me for more details. I am paid for referrals, but I don't need the money so no hard sells😋 hoping to help our laid off accounting people. Admins feel free to delete it not appropriate.

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RAed after 22 years of service. They only offered one month severance pay. Is that right or should I be getting more than one month?

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Hello there, i’m wondering if anyone on this group has experience opening your own agency? I was laid off in April and had been freelancing ever since. I have been luck enough getting a few projects without really seeking people out while slowly interviewing. In the back of my mind I have always wanted my own agency. How do you get more clients and dealing with the sales/pitching process on your own? also as WOC i don’t feel like have the right network to tap into for higher earning projects

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Accenture squad...with our fiscal year coming to an end and ratings about to begin, should we expect to see layoffs similar to Deloitte and PwC this year?

For those of us who have been laid off, are you searching immediately for a new role or are you taking time before looking again?

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Such low utilization at the firm I'm just over one calendar year now since start date. Is the bench at Deloitte for IM pretty big or am I the only one? About to get fired..

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Walked into the office in rolled up jeans, white t shirt and sneakers. Met a partner, got his number, IT actually did their job and was out of there without being fired. Can I just call it a day now?

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To all the Deloitters - it's sad that there are layoffs.. Its good that you want to share the news and "warn" others but how about following a template -- level, office, service line, rating

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Will Slalom ever do covid layoffs?

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Did the Deloitte layoffs include people in their federal practice?

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About rolling off my project with no new project opportunity yet. I’m already getting anxious and can’t have a full night rest with the worry of not finding a project soon and eventually getting laid off. Although I tend to stress-out easily but this type of anxiety is different. Are others feeling the same way? Also over 90% chargeability and great reviews, but seems like that may not matter with the recent layoff stories I’ve read....

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Do you have to return the sign on bonus if you get laid off, sign on period (2 years) has not yet passed. I would also like to know the firm's severance policy.

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Ford layoff news got me thinking: Why don’t corporations gradually increase annual target for separations and freeze hiring, instead of one big X% workforce reduction?

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Just was fired, told I will continue to be supported for a month, but have unfinished projects I'm leading, the rest of the team doesn't know yet, what do I do? What are my options?

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People who got laid off and was job searching, what the longest you are/were unemployed?

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Recently people started to use “maybe you will get fired” as a joking phrase. I know it is not true but can’t help wonder is it because I am doing a bad job...

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Serious question - the president of our office magically disappeared last week. No two weeks notice, no eloquent goodbye emails, not even an official announcement. That means she was fired but they can’t say, right? Honestly asking because it all seems so mysterious.

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Were there a lot of layoffs only at EY or at several consulting companies?

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Hey Fishes,

Below are some of the positions open in my team in CGI across Hyderabad/Bangalore/Chennai, people can ping me for referral.

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Thread for turnip prices on Wednesday!

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Best advice for how to leverage SM? My business is career oriented so not sure which SMs to leverage most. i’m not looking to spend all day updating every platform (only most effective and logical)

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ServiceNow developer and i have got 2 offers

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Cognizant - 8+

Please tell me whether it is a good package and which is the best place to work in..

Also i am bit concerned about the upcoming recession. Please provide your inputs..

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Is anyone familiar with Elite’s 3E or Thomson Reuters? What are its advantages vs others? Is it a hot skill to have?

I’m so done with sales. I’m burnt out and uninspired with my job. The pay is nice, but I need something more fulfilling and less stressful. I want to be able to keep working while I figure out my “why” but I don’t want to rip my hair out in the process. *7 YOE, 6 mid market, 1 enterprise* Any ideas for an easy transition job away from sales that isn’t a giant pay cut?

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Please advise. I have many offers. But I am confused between 3 orgs:

1. Capgemini : senior consultant 13.5 fixed

2. Mindtree : Technical Lead 15.5 including variable 12%

3. EY India: senior consultant, tech consulting, 14.5 fixed. Variable depends on performance. Heard they give min 10%

Skills: Java 8, Spring Boot

Yoe: 6

Couple of weeks left in notice period.

Please advise for good work life balance and growth.

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I know I can just unfollow you or scroll past your post… but I just really enjoy hating you!!

Don’t you get it???

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Can we travel between states without informing anyone ?

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I wish art supply catalogs would allow ordering turquoise crayons, paint, pencils, etc., in bulk. It goes much more quickly than other colors, and I have to order a class pack to get more. 😐

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How many Muslims here think it’s OK to drink (in small amounts/socially) while still being a good Muslim? Select below

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Please can anyone give referal for Amazon Business Analyst Role
Job ID: A2184719

Looking for recommendations for a data source that provides insights on paid social media. TIA

Hi Fishes, will there be any background check on counter offer processing!! I have offer with TCS and my current employer (CTS) is asking for the offer provided by TCS. Thought that if I say more they will relieve me so added 3 lacs more to my current offer but, now my current employer is asking me to provide the offer letter to match the sme provided by TCS.

Can I modify the offer letter by myself and share or I shouldn't ?

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Anyone from Disney (particularly tech or data platform) willing to make a referral? I have CSPO and CSM certs and in the interview process for a Product Owner position on their IAM team. Looking for any boost I can get to join the company.

Is tiger king any good or are people just joking around? Don’t want to invest my time if it’s boring and trash

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I’m having some trouble with finding a job. I have applied and haven’t gotten any interviews. Can someone help me.

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still don’t understand what consultants do on a day to day basis

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