Can we talk incorrect levelling? Why is it that people with 10-15 year experience more than their counterparts with very drastic differences in capability are at the same level ie. use the term lead or manager and paid similarly? In some instances I notice major gaps in their understanding that seems very obvious to me, but some have shared their salaries openly, suggesting they make more than me despite a 10 year difference in experience.

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Realistically, people need to move to a new company every 3-5 years to stay current in pay and commensurate to experience level. In many companies self-promotion strategies trump merit.

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It really depends on the company. Some have overhauled their job titles away from traditional mgr-SM-AD-D-SD-etc and towards the deliberately confusing Lead/Head/whatever. Some people with more experience may want to stay as indiv contributors, not ppl managers. There is a downside to being perceived as "too young" for the role title though.. you'll be held to a higher standard, roughly genius-level expectations, and if you don't meet those expectations on first pass.. you'll be written off as something worse.

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Idk what “lead” title refers to, I’m a Director and am 32, and am probably one of the youngest Directors at my company. I was an Associate Director at my last company at 30. I’m “Lead Product Counsel” but “lead” isn’t my title.

Plenty of highly qualified and skilled people who don't move up simply because they don't play the game. Get out of your head. Just because you have the title of director doesn't mean you actually earned it or are qualified for it.

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I’ve had the same title in the same company for 7 years, and capped at my level salary limit (for the company). It seems easier and cheaper to just give me empty promises and ring me out as the less experienced people catch up. Despite my role being more senior than my title, and workload much higher ( and previous arguments I’ve given on a 20% raise with a promotion would in turn translate to 25% more profitability to the company due to client billing rate change). Only last year did I learn compensation is determined based on potential loss of business if you leave vs your likelihood to leave. So the lesson is make as much money for the company as possible then start talking about your next job loudly.

AOR agency side, so I guess yes technically… but we’re egotistical snooty b****es so don’t consider ourselves vendors

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