had great woman bosses who led me with effectiveness & empathy to feel we have trust or as much as u can within power dynamic. I know they’re out there

I have some including now she realizes or not, leads with effectiveness & fear. We walk on eggshells waiting for next negative remark. Honestly I feel these bosses I can’t help them change with candid feedback without burning a bridge I just need to quit, find a better boss.

Anyone have any experiences like this? Did they change?

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Had a boss like this and it was bad, everyone was aware of it but she was untouchable as she was family to the CEO. Unfortunately it took about 6 years of her doing whatever she wanted and treating people badly until it finally got to a head and she was let go.

Anyone who spoke up was branded as a bad worker with animosity and one even was labeled as “emotionally unstable”. But one by one as people left and made a comment it finally was noticed and taken seriously by management. But it took about 2.5 years from the first serious accusation to her being “transferred to HQ” and then “retiring” to be let go.

In all honesty you need to change your path or get out of the job. Try and find a different department to work for if possible. These people take a long time to get noticed about their behavior.

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They don't change, they've been served by their attitude because it gets the job done for them. They accomplish what they set out to because most people are scared to push back.

I have a manager currently that is so volatile you never know which mood she's going to be in. Everyone else is "incompetent" and the problem, not her of course. I don't think there's anyone she likes at the company, except for people under her thumb. It's trash. I'm just biding time until I can get out of this situation because it's stressful.

She plays a very manipulative game and then holds any trust you built with her as hostage and will throw anything you confided in her in your face or leverage against you.

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This is my boss and it's so much worse coming from another woman. Despite being in her 40s, she has a very "boomer" mentality and leads with fear, judgement and criticism. I'm the complete opposite and lead with trust and empathy. I wish I had a good answer...been giving more honest feedback in the hopes she can change her behavior but it's pretty ingrained and I have a lot of doubts that it's even possible. She has to be reminded to say something appreciative once in a while--it doesn't even occur to her to say thank you or good job. Unreal.

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For more context, I’ve known this boss for a whole. At Team 1, we didn’t work directly together but I heard from multiple sources who did that she was bad, always randomly blunt mean in negative ways that put everyone on high alert. They tried to tell her in written performance reviews. Those sources eventually quit, citing her as one of the reasons.

Now she has moved and im directly working with her. I do think she has gotten better but unexpected negative remarks and lack of compassion i feel it firsthand now. She thinks she is entitled to my respect but I don’t respect bad leaders. I’ll do the work but if I dread talking to her - it’s not environment I can work in.

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Is this current boss one of those some love her and some hate her - there is no in between?

I had one of those. Upper leadership knew it and actively worked to improve her. And I heard she got better. Not the best. But ended up hiring a lot of folks that were just like her.

I didn’t fit the mold so I got out.

I’d say the people above her or same level seem to like her. I’ve not heard otherwise. But under her, especially people who are junior all have negative experiences

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