Hey has anyone heard of Product Gym? It’s a coaching program ran by Richard Chen. I have a buddy who’s trying to get me to join and get a higher paying PM job and I’m worried it’s a scam. Has anyone here done it or know anyone who’s done it? Is it worth it? All the reviews online are good but I’m still skeptical.

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There’s a handful of programs like this out there. A lot of them have similar structures.

You pay for the content, and assuming you put in the effort and follow the roadmap, you should land a job that more than outweighs the investment you make in the content. However, nothing is guaranteed, and as the market gets tighter, you might be up against more candidates who have similar skills and knowledge.

I wouldn’t consider it a scam, but I also wouldn’t consider it a guaranteed ROI positive effort.

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It’s a lot of money for what it is. I think it’s more valuable for people trying to break into product but less so if you’re already a PM. Also the program has (in my opinion) gone a little downhill in the past few years after the other cofounder (who was more product focused) stepped away. It’s also not a job guarantee, especially in this market. You do have to put in the work.

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If you’re already a PM I’d spend most of your time preparing for interviews and join a group of other PMs for 1-3 months of focused interview prep

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My advice - upload your LinkedIn summary and resume to Chat gpt with a role description that you’d like - ask gpt to update both based on your career aspirations or that role

Also ask a senior colleague - director level and up to review your resume or LinkedIn- ask them for actionable and tangible feedback

The market is super tough - it’s not you alone - you’ll need to connect in your network for referrals, also ask for referrals from college university classmates

I also recommend the Hiring Cafe platform to apply to roles posted ever 24-48 hours

Do not get stressed out. The market is tough overall for everyone. There are only 8-10 weeks left before the holiday season. There will be a decrease in hiring then. You can try your best in the interim.

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