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Maybe you had spelling mistakes like you did above “Partner”?
Hard no for me, and for context I’m a Consulting partner.
The amount of training and check points along the way each time we do when you submit independence to help you avoid “little things” is absolutely obscene. We are in the mama bird, baby bird territory.
If you do not take our brand seriously to spend extra 5 minutes each time to validate you have submitted everything, you will extend the same attitude to your responsibilities as a partner. There is no room for sloppy here.
I agree with Partner 4. This is the DNA of the firms…you have to follow it. I have seen candidates get lapped for one year for a very small item.
Independence issues can be the difference between a candidate making it and another candidate not, all else equal. Make sure the narrative is clear.
There is zero tolerance for these matters in a Big 4 environment. I know of a case where the husband of a colleague had assets his mother put in his name and she had no clue existed. She was deferred a year. There was also another case where the fund manager of a mutual fund changed the name of the fund but the short name was the same as the original fund. That was an issue. My recommendation is to find 3 to 5 unrestricted equities and invest in those to avoid this problem going forward.
Former EY Partner here. Me and my 2 colleagues who went through it together (and all made it) had findings as well. It’s normal. As long as it wasn’t fraud, you’re fine.
Couple of misses? This is too vague to answer...if you are talking about 20 year old DUIs, maybe. If you are talking about financial anything, probably not. And to be honest, it will probably come down to how 'clean' your competition is for those Partner spots.
Worst thing they will do is warn you that this cannot happen again. Report it into system and preclear it. If independence constraints, do the actions needed and come out clear
Independence breaches would be a straight no for me.
Hard to answer without the details but as others have said. It’s severe if it’s related to financial compliance, like unreported financial interests, or shady expenses reports
I have mentioned in couple of my replies today that its related to missed financial entries and none ill intented. Nothing on expense reports or anything else. I will be getting a financial penalty anyways
In a down economy this is likely enough to defer you a year. Big 4 do not mess around with Independence. It may be enough to defer you a year in a good economy. Pay attention to this stuff. It matters a ton to these firms.
Good luck to you. Fix this. Be apologetic and conciliatory and let them know you understand this is a big deal. Keep crushing on the path you’ve set for yourself. And get into the partnership next year. You will be welcomed with open arms then.
My buddy’s wife’s Partnership was rejected by a Big 4 at the same stage you’re in now because she forgot to disclose her husband’s registered retirement savings plan, which was managed through his employer’s benefits provider (Canada).
You really do need to be specific about what each of those “couple of things” actually is so people can understand your situation and give you a better informed opinion. You haven’t clearly laid that out in your replies, you just use the example of a free $HOOD situation. This makes it feel like there’s more to the story and that you might just be looking for confirmation bias.
Regardless, best of luck to you.
I had missed declaring a few investments (mutual funds that I had bought 10 years ago). I was still Partner but was levied a 10k penalty.
I meant I was still made partner
Coach
Don’t sweat the little stuff. If it’s little. The process wants you to - don’t let it.
Thanks for the reassurance. I mentioned in my other response that its related to financial entires which were a pure miss. They will be giving me a financial penalty anyways (% of bonus from next yr) and its a lesson learnt big time with the kick in the butt. Never ever.
It might not be enough to get you knocked out of the process entirely, but it’s certainly going to raise questions and depending on the competition, that might be enough to delay you a year
Mentor
Low odds.
Low odds of impacting my case or low odds or my case going thru?
It depends on the Firm, country and the circumstances. One oversight may be ok. In some jurisdictions it is definitely not ok. Multiple missed entries tends to indicate a pattern, at the very least of carelessness. Given all of the reminders you are given in the regular course of business, and especially when you enter the process, it is tough to argue this is an oopsie. Without knowing the firm, role etc it is tough to say. However if this rose to the level of a financial penalty it is hard to see how it would not impact the process. If I were reviewing your case I would likely recommend a deferral.