I’ve been a partner at a Big 4 firm for over 7 years, with a total of 20+ years there. My metrics are strong, but I’m feeling really disillusioned following needless internal reorgs, worsening culture and a lack of leadership/investment. I’ve been approached for different leadership roles by another Big 4 firm, a mid tier firm, and also an AI startup. Has anyone else navigated this type of decision and if so can you share pros/cons/expectations?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at

My feelings are similar to yours although im a few years behind you and did switch firms along the way. I get competing firms reaching out to me all the time (big 4, mid tier, pe owned, non audit advisory firms, etc.). The only way I’d leave is to get out of the profession completely because it’s all the same. At least you have the known factor which unless it reaches a point where you dread the people/clients/admin to the point where it is impacting your mental health negatively, there is no way I’d move to a similar firm where I have to build from the ground up all over again. No thanks. The profession just sucks this is why nobody wants to do this crap. Just make it to your retirement age and then do whatever you want with the f u money in your bank account.

like

Personally I avoid mid-tier offers, listen to other Big4 (I’m at big4 now in tax), and am intrigued by industry but don’t see a long term path. I have a handful of clients that I would consider if they offer me a job but that’s because I know the team and culture very well.

It sounds like you’re burned out and need a vacation or sabbatical to reset. P1 above said it best, the grass is usually not greener on the other side. Starting over is a lot of work and I’ve seen that firsthand with direct admits and new hires at my clients.

For some direct admits, the move was the right one for a number of different reasons. They thrived and built a new network quickly with a day 1 support team to make that happen. I find that about half of all direct admits fail and leave before probationary period ends because they expected something different and couldn’t start over at that stage in their career.

like

OP
Definitely tough to evaluate, and I imagine stressful too. As the other partners have mentioned, there are many considerations, some measurable and some personal, subjective and intangible. Although it is often best to stay where you are as noted by others, there can sometimes be good reasons to make a move. Every partner situation is different and tough to navigate.

I spent nearly 35 years in the profession and retired a few years ago. Made partner at Big 4 in first half of career, then went to a smaller firm and grew into a National. Held leadership roles for second half of career and recruited nearly 25 lateral partners to my firm. Did some consulting with lateral partners after retirement, now mostly sleeping late, traveling and finally enjoying free time!

Happy to talk live on a confidential basis and share wisdom perspective and relatively objective feedback and thoughts. Might be helpful since I'm guessing your closest industry confidants are your current partners (and maybe biased).

DM if you're interested in speaking.

like

Truth is that wherever you go you will most likely ultimately have to deal with the same thing at some point in your career. Every few years there’s a reorg and new alphabet soup for the offerings. New leadership with new agendas and priorities, changes forced by market conditions, etc.

You have to weigh the pros and cons of giving up a network you’ve established over 20+ years vs venturing out and starting new. Keep in mind that what they tell you now to get you in the door will likely be very different from reality.

likesmart

Guessing you’re at EY.

likefunny

A story I’ve heard a lot in the market about EY, could almost recite it back.

I have made some lateral partner moves. Been doing this quite a while and close to retirement. I share your feelings and I think part of it is burn out and part of it is the industry in general. This business is not what it used to be and not for the better. It’s tiring listening to leadership spew the same nonsense that sounds good in theory but isn’t realistic or sustainable. I won’t repeat what everyone else said, but one of the biggest challenges I’ve found is fitting in. In many cases people have long tenures at a firm and you will always be the outsider…ie, not part of the club. They don’t really want to tap into your experience and ideas and in most cases aren’t open to it. It’s deflating. This is just my experience. Depending on how close to retirement you are, I’d just ride it out and do what you need to. The grass isn’t greener, there will always be weeds….some more invasive than others.

like

Related Posts

beginner here and starting my first FT job. planning on investing 1k each month. any advice on how and where to invest this 1k each month?

like

Anyone in Fort Myers? Moving down in February and can’t wait! ☀️💃🏻

like

Can anyone help me out with a sample sales
territory plan? I’m looking to move from a fully inbound sales role to an external role managing a specific territory. This is going to be a change and a challenge that excited for! Any advice/tips would be most appreciated!

I have a question related to working under green card EAD. I got EAD (expiring in 2 years), and plan to change employer. After 2 years, can I renew or apply for the new EAD with the new employer? My I485 is still pending.

like

Sorry 🐠know it has been asked but don’t find it. How to decide whether to redeem bonvoy/Marriott points or pay the night (personal travel)? What is the value you should seek to in Cents per point? Tia

like

Google Can anyone @google give me a referral for the APMM position in Singapore? Because there I would have a higher chance of getting selected with a referral I wanted to ask if anyone could help me out with that.

I know this is a lot coming from a stranger, I can show you my career portfolio deck and the resume if you only feel that I am a good fit you can refer me. If you think I am not fit, no hard feelings just feedback would do.

like

What’s the comp breakdown for an operations specialist at google for the Fitbit products (medical devices)

like

what’s the comp for product and strategy manager on google in HCOL loc?

like

Been in bed with full blown panic attack all day 🙁 Struggling to even breath

like

Hi background in audit and soc compliance now working for a non-public firm but delivering support to the auditors. Being that I am new I am still learning all the processes however cannot find a single process narrative. In order to better my experience performance I have attempted to find some type of structure.
Nothing is compliant…..

Would you send over a file for review with your name on it when told for job security or respect yourself and understand why first

like

Hi all, I'm an experienced Scrum Master and Agile Coach. Can someone please refer me to a job posting? I can share the job ID. It would be very helpful. Thanks!

Hi Folks, I'm looking for supply chain consulting role in UK. Preferably in digital transformation.

I'll need a visa sponsorship

Serious question, why does going to the gym and doing an intense workout raise my lidio/drive and make me want to run home and and just go to town. 😩🥹

funnylikeuplifting

I wish I could tell my lead how much i like him.

PS: He's engaged.

like

Can any1 refer me in JPmc ? I m an azure data engineer and yoe - 8. LWD - 19 oct

like
like

Hey how to get pluralsight access?

Is there any opportunity for Data annotator having experience of 3+ years

Please let me know how to claim (whats bills needs to be submitted) exemptions for Special Allowances.

like

Hi, I was promoted to Associate in March. Am I eligible for October annual hike?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal