What does it take for someone to become tenured in your district?

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We have to work on uninterrupted for five years here. The tricky thing is that it’s hard to hit this goal because our district likes to “lay us off” every few years and then rehire us at the beginning of the school year. They claim it’s a budget thing. I’m pretty sure it’s to keep us a hidden tenure.

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They have to successfully complete our 3 year mentoring program that includes PD, observations from their mentor and the mentoring coordinator a few times a year, they have to go and observe their mentor or other teachers, reflections for both of those, meet with their mentor (amount varies by what year and quarter you’re in - first years meet weekly with their mentor for the first quarter, my mentees are in their 2nd and 3rd years we meet monthly). I like our program! It’s a lot of extra time on my part as the mentor but I do get a stipend at the end of the year. I think it’s helpful for mentees and I think my mentees enjoy most of it for the most part - or that’s what they tell me lol! Then teachers have a year without our mentoring program and if they aren’t complete fools they’re recommended for tenure! So for us, work for 4 years and grow, get tenure. Every once in a while my district doesn’t tenure someone and then their contract isn’t renewed.

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We don’t have tenure here. I’m glad.

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Feel free to make the case for it if you like. A lot of our differences will come down to how we view management and leadership, and who should really benefit from what is being done on a day to day basis.

If I were to be rude about it, tenure protects bad teachers and hurts kids and communities. But that is a simplistic way of framing the argument.

I’m fine with discussing this in more detail and in an intellectually honest manner if you are interested. You would need to make your case first, and then we can explore after I rebut.

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Kansas got rid of tenure, so we negotiated it into our contract as "due process" for termination. You need three years, and then the cause for termination has to be documented. I don't know what Oklahoma's problem is. A good administrator will make sure teachers are doing their jobs and document "bad" employees. Then they are fired for cause.

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I have taught in SC, TN and NC and am in year 34. I have seen three teachers fired and several others that should have been. All were in TN. One didn't teach, just had the tv on all the time and yelled at the kids, one was an awesome teacher, but the principal didn't like her and set her up and the third was the same principal, EC teacher, but she negotiated to get her retirement. One that certainly needed to go spoke terribly to kids. The music teacher was giving free lessons, instead of eating lunch, to a student that showed promise, but couldn't afford lessons. She went to his class to pick him up and the teacher questioned her choice of student, saying, "He's dumb as a brick". (Student's name) what do I tell you every day? "That I'm dumb as a brick." He was very intelligent and saw things differently, possibly high functioning neurodivergent. As an art teacher, I always loved his insights and approaches to an assignment. He was a breath of fresh air in a group that didn't have a ton of imagination.
I have also seen teachers 'pushed out'. I was moved from elementary to middle school this year as they wanted to move the former MS teacher away due to an altercation with a student last year. Once returning from medical leave, he stayed about two weeks and left. They knew he wouldn't want elementary.

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Five years with at least a proficient eval each year

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In MASSACHUSETTS, 3 years working in your district then you have some job security with due process.

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What’s K-12 tenure? ;-o}

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They call it “ professional status” here. 3 years of service and mentorship program. You can be let go at any time in your first 3 years. After you get professional status, seniority applies to layoffs.

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Tenure doesn't exist in FL anymore.

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Two years of teaching. New teachers receive two years of induction (mentorship), but experienced teachers new to the district do not.

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5 consecutive years of work

4 years.

They got rid of it in our district.

The GOP got rid of tenure in the state of FL.

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