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I’ve put myself up for L4 promo this cycle. Assuming I get it, what would be the best next steps to optimize for long-term growth/TC?
My understanding is that L5->L6 is extremely painful at Google. It may be easier to leave for a handful of years and gain managerial experience before returning.
L4->L5 is less challenging; however, I’m under the impression I can do this quicker at another company (if I leave after being freshly promo’d) AND get higher TC.
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I would take it in stride and keep it moving. The temptation is to go off on your boss for his under appreciation of your work but it's not worth it. Make it a priority with your next employer and I'm sure it will work out differently.
That really sucks, I would feel under appreciated also but just count you blessings that you're moving on.
I say since you're leaving already, there's no harm in asking them why the new hire is getting paid significantly more than you did,
Welcome to the new norm. New hires getting paid more then existing staff.
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I already knew I was underpaid because I see the workload of others with the same title as I have, it's not even close. I was also responsible to train many of them even though I had been working here for less than a year. I created solutions for issues they lived with for years, they love them and use them daily. My manager told me one of the team is willing to bring me as a consultant to build/find similar solutions for them, I truly thought I provided real value and contributed to the team's success.
I was not forced to do any of this and I enjoyed working with the people and was able to learn many new skills because of what I did here but seeing others getting paid more than me and I just get “We will really miss you :(” at the end of emails is not worth it.
Maybe they just had to raise the pay because of inflation or maybe they tried to increase my pay and couldn't. I guess I will never know.
Sorry for sounding entitled but I needed to get this out of my chest and maybe get a different perceptive!
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It’s not entitled, but I think you are right to realize your own role in this as well. No doubt you were an exceptional performer and I’m sure they genuinely appreciated you, hence the raise. But no matter how much you do you can’t expect them to keep proactively giving you raises every time you do more. If you were planning to stay and asked for a raise that matches what the new person is getting, it’s possible they would’ve happily given that to you. But since you didn’t ask for more and still kept plugging away, you can hardly blame them for wanting to keep a good thing going.
My impression is that you’re an insecure overachiever (I say that with love, many of those at BCG) who is prone to feeling like they aren’t doing as much as they could, even when they are already doing a damn lot. I actually think that’s a rather admirable quality, kudos on your talent and work ethic. I hope you continue proving yourself over your future opportunities, but I also hope you pursue the appropriate benefits for yourself, especially as you reach a point where the vibe shifts from “proving yourself” to “reaping what you’ve sown”
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UofA: I definitely need to learn to communicate issues like this
C1: Yes! I still have the skills with me and someone else will pay for them fairly
A1: I feel this will be an awkward conversation, do you think there's a point to mention it if I'm already leaving?
That is very common. People will always tell you nice things but act differently. That is why I start thinking more about myself and less about the company.
Unfortuantely that seems to be the trend lately. Its almost better to leave a job you have been working for over 10 years and get a new one because you will make a lot more.
i understand how that feels, I have definitely been there. However, you really don't know the circumstances of the decision. Do they have more experience? Did they negotiate that higher salary? etc etc. NOt saying you are wrong in any way to feel that way, theres just so many things that factor in
So sorry to hear this, OP. Most of us had the same experience so we know what you feel. Just keep on applying and hopefully, you find a company that values and appreciates you.