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What state? Are you willing to pay decently higher than PD/prosecutors offices in your area? A lot of times, it’s more profitable for people with prior experience to go solo than to join a firm as an associate.
I agree with this too. I was a defense attorney for 10 years and worked for other people, which I got tired of but didn’t have the ability to go solo. So, now I’m on the dark side! 🖤 😆
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Because everybody wants an associate with experience, so nobody is training anybody to give them that experience. Unless it’s an associate mill that churns through them. I get it, it sucks to train new people, but somebody’s gotta do it.
I'd argue private criminal law is especially bad for training new lawyers. You'll get my knowledge and experience with a Public Defender, State Attorney, or Conflict Counsel's office. The sweet spot seems to be 3+ years to hire someone from one of the above since at that point you're teaching private practice without the substantive portion.
As someone seeking employment in criminal defense right out of school, I kind of have to agree with Prosecutor 1. I applied to several positions and spent the entirety of my law school career at state public defender offices with fantastic work product samples and references, but no one wanted anything to do with me because I didn't have at least 5 years of experience. I obviously had a baseline skill set that wouldn't have been that difficult to build on but that just wasn't enough. I think competent, enthusiastic people are out there, higher ranking attorneys just have to invest a little bit.
Sorry to get your hopes up DDA1 but I don't think I'm swooping in to lighten your (probably monstrous) caseload any time soon moving all the way to California from the Northeast 😂 With Love, an East Coaster.
In all seriousness that is part of the problem for me--we are down bodies bad in PD offices here too, but that means people that are already barred get first dibs over me, who would be onboarded on the condition of bar passage. It's more likely than not that is how it will be for me until results come out in October. I'm hopeful but at the end of the day realistic. For most people if they don't have a job locked down by graduation it's a waiting game until the fall. I'm still looking around for jobs in between studying for the bar and by no means am going to slow down my search or stop looking for opportunities but I understand that's just how it is right now for people in my position.