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No, however I do think WFH has really leveled the playing field for women so that others aren’t given an opportunity to judge us based on any characteristics. At home I am just woman. I am not brunette woman, I am not thicccc woman, I am not properly dressed woman, I am just woman. The less we give them the better
This is a really great point. I wear a black t shirt every day since people can only see me from the waist up. It is so nice to not agonize about my appearance and wardrobe all the time
I think it’s nuts to think it doesn’t when there’s been studies done about how fat people are perceived as dumb and lazy.
I was responding to OP
I worked at a real boys club agency and everyone was much nicer to me when I lost 40 lbs before my wedding. It was striking. They also wouldn’t put me client facing on pitches once I gained the weight back (from pregnancy) and instead sent skinny women to the meeting and gave me feedback about inspiring clients. Even though my clients loved me because I listened to them and they didn’t want to sleep with me so didn’t care that I’m plus size. Then when I was laid off, my clients that I didn’t inspire enough tried to hire me.
That’s awful. I’ve heard about women who get treated better in general when they go from being fat to thin, it’s disgusting. I’m wary of losing weight and inadvertently finding out what some people really think of me right now. :/
Yes. But it’s different in different regions. When I worked in California they kept telling me my executive presence was an issue, when all my feedback was outstanding (client and internal). I finally had someone just say it plainly (off the record naturally), it was my weight. And that would limit promotion past sr manager. In other regions, it was less direct but noticeable - when you’re not invited to things or passed over for certain projects with certain leaders.
Yes. This. “Executive presence” has always been coded language for weight for me as well.
Yep, I was let go from an agency because I’m fat, and the people there didn’t like my body.
It was a toxic workplace already in general, very looks focused and if you didn’t fit into the cute, petite, femme look (mostly in creative) then you weren’t going to fare well there. Guess how many women they had in leadership?
When I was in the meeting being let go with my ECD and HR, I asked the EDC what I’d done wrong to learn for next time (I was pretty naive back then). As he walked out the door he just said "you’re sloppy" which I’d never heard about my work before - I’m actually very meticulous and organized. I realized later that he was referring to how I looked (I dress quite nicely) which was really about his perception of fat. Sloppy is often used to refer to fat people.
Really wish I’d sued them (I live in Canada, I would’ve had cause).
PWC1 Current place is fine. That agency was the only one where I was treated differently for my size, I’ve been in one other toxic office but that was just due to one jerk who was insecure about his management abilities. This place and the one before has been fine by and large. I do sometimes see some people interacting with me a little differently based on my body shape (it’s kind of a tone and attitude thing), but I can often overcome that as I show them what kind of person I am over time. Or I ignore if it’s a brief relationship.