How do people feel about Salesforce growing their pro serv practice and eventually competing with their SI partners? This might get messy real soon

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This has been happening for a few years now. I'll begin to be concerned for SI's when Salesforce can consistently deliver on SOW's staffed with large teams run by competent EM's/PM's using industry-standard tools, and get VP-levels involved as partner-type oversight. Right now they do none of these things consistently, and staffed resources don't have a good understanding of non-Salesforce products, or platform-agnostic concepts like DevOps, integration patterns, code bulkification, etc. Lots of subcontractors and their new offshore delivery center as well, and the Acumen and Traction acquisitions will continue to pose organizational integration challenges. Meanwhile CSG attrition, particularly in consulting, is through the roof, because raises are small, promotions are slow, and RSU grants/refreshers are close to nonexistent for existing staff.

It's basically the worst elements of an IBM/Accenture-type experience with few of the good things you would expect from it being run by Salesforce. Which is sad because I was really hoping they would push the whole industry forward. Instead they are leveraging their brand awareness and collective exhaustion with the GSI model to deliver a pale imitation of the same thing.

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This is also a problem industry wide due to demand exceeding supply for the roles you mentioned. Salesforce is just throwing bodies at the problem, which is all those acquisitions really were. Easier to buy a 1k person firm than try to hire 1k employees individually.

As others have eluded to, CSG is simply a loss leader for Salesforce. Keep the client happy to increase the license count. The recurring revenue is where they make their money. Investing in structure within CSG will never be a true priority if that's the strategy.

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I just joined Salesforce as an SA for this reason. I think SI partners will still have some market but Marc is looking for a bigger piece of the pie. I expect enormous growth in CSG over the next 3-5 years

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Hey! Can you DM me, would love to know more about CSG

I completely understand it from a business standpoint, but as an SI, I hate it. It seems like CSG pushes Salesforce tools (even when they may not be the best fit for the client) more than a partner with an enterprise architecture lens might.

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SC1 lol why?

In my experience, the Salesforce Pro Serv people are more worried about protecting the product and covering their ass than delivering a quality solution, where an SI might give clients more un-biased consulting... and SF pro serv is expensive AF.

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Was just waiting for the “TA” to pitch in with the negativity 😂

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Wow. TA1 lots of details. Is CSG the customer success group? Are you with Salesforce at the moment?

What SI did you go to TA1?

It is already getting messy.

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