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How big is the bonus? We’d say no to a September start date but we’d try to true you up with a sign on bonus if it was reasonable.
It’s $60K and good to know! TY!
Is the in-house role at the same place where you’re seconded? If yes and it’s an important client to the firm I’d expect them to be reasonable in not clawing back
I should’ve clarified but no, it’s not at the place where I’m seconded. Thank you!
In house hiring takes forever. You’ll probably be fine. Besides, it’s always a terrible look for an employer to try to claw back cash.
When you get to the offer stage, discuss this, but don't be surprised if they aren't going to make you whole. It sucks, but think about it...say they meet you halfway. Is $30K really enough to move the needle for you? If it is, then query whether this is the right role at all.
Just to clarify, I’m planning to take the in-house role if it works out. My questions is if it’s okay to ask for a slightly later start date so I don’t lose the bonus, or if anyone’s seen other ways to navigate this. However, I appreciate everyone’s input so far!
Just take the in-house when it comes through. I wouldn’t risk it over a signing bonus for a job your about to leave anyway
Folks have given good advice regarding companies making you whole, but one addition to that (having been on the in-house hiring side here in similar situations): be very clear with the recruiter on the compensation discussions the terms of the bonus/clawback so they know what it would take to make you whole. Don't just say "I have a 60k bonus vesting later this year" but instead "I received a 60k signing bonus that doesn't vest until September 15 and if I accept an offer before that would owe back a pro-rated portion of that bonus, which I believe is X amount." Then you can discuss what a true-up would look like. A company paying you out 15k for the pro-rated portion would be fairly standard - paying you 60k a little less so unless you're quite senior.
When I got my job, my now-boss specifically asked about vesting and bonus dates to make sure I wasn’t leaving anything on the table
I say wait until background checks and be realistic with them about your state date. Honestly I tell places 2-3 weeks min because ofCase transfer, wrapping stuff up, closing memos, etc. I was in a similar situation before I actually told them I had a vacation scheduled. Not a huge deal but did buy me 2 weeks more time before my start date