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How is it a debate where the fault lies? It seems pretty clear it falls solely on the country that fired the missile and didn’t know what they were shooting at
There’s no context that excuses military grade incompetence despite all the hoops people are jumping through to blame the “bad orange man”
@FourScore, you alright?
Trump explicitly stated that he is imposing maximum pressure on Iran. We just found out the consequences of that pressure. You can’t have it both ways.
But people think Trump is completely innocent of all the events that happened here.
And you can’t argue with the self-righteousness of some people.
I don't see how you blame Trump. This wasn't foreseeable. Deliberate retaliation, yes, stupidly shooting down a plane by mistake? No.
Because he chose to expose the fact that detente did not work as promised. Similar to the elite lie of “China will be free-er after it’s grows richer.” Or it will setup ethnic cleansing camps and become a Merchantilism monster that requires Western capital to drive it.
I love that the those excuse the use of starvation and Sunni ethnic cleansing if it is in pursuit of the case against the Orange man. Detente failed, deterrence is required to contain continued provocative expansionist behaviors.
Trump is a horrible president but there is no shortage of room in hell. Iran has been led by horrible people for a long time now. Nobody is innocent, but some people are worse than others.
JT’s perspective: Hey it was an innocent accident Iran made,and if it wasn’t for Trump kidding the Quds general it never would have happened.
Iran was in the process of launching an attack - for which was no US response. They were on high alert for that response and mistook commercial airliner for a US response. Then tried to cover up the incident. A lot of bad actions on the part of Iran that night and literally no action on behalf of USA. Iran is the only responsible party here.
Or is 500k dead civilians whatablism???
Is Russia at fault as well? They built and sold the SAM that shot down the jet.
Or you can blame helping the Shah return to power and how it was the US’s fault - never mind the consequences of the Arab Spring - Egypt and Libya anyone?