What's up with people asking to connect for the purpose of referring? Is the motivation for the referer the referral bonus? I'm curious who is referring people they really don't know.

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I can speak for FAANG companies (used to work at one) and say that yes, if someone you refer gets hired and stays 3-6 months, you receive a referral bonus--which last I checked could be a couple grand minimum, or more depending on the level of the person being hired.

But what I don't understand is why someone *wouldn't* want to help someone get a job, regardless of whether or not it would make them eligible for a referral bonus. The labor market is *extremely* difficult right now and people are going through really tough times--many are worried about making ends meet/providing for their families.

To be fair, there is a difference between receiving a message straight out of the blue from some rando bluntly asking to be referred and that's it. But if it's coming from someone whom you believe may be qualified for the role and crafts a thoughtful message, why not? If done right, someone who would be a good fit won't just ask for a referral--they're ask for your insights on the company/position (if they're applying to one similar to yours) and it's not uncommon for them to ask just 15 min on a phone call to pick your brain. Hint: this is also an opportunity for YOU to pick also their brain and see if they'd be a good culture fit worthy of a referral.

They may or may not explicitly ask for the referral as well, but good etiquette if they ask would be politely, OR you yourself offer after you get to speak with them and you really believe they'd be a potential fit.

In the event that they don't, be honest and tell them so. Perhaps they might be better suited to a different role, or different level. If you've gotten so far as to review their profile, they seemed promising, and you got the chance to talk to them, chances are that you won't be crossing them off completely for the company. That kind of decision is definitely more suitable to messages you get from lazy folks who are obviously and tactlessly spamming anyone and everyone just blatantly asking for a referral on LinkedIn. Then sure, feel free to ignore those.

My philosophy--help those in need when you can, hopefully out of the goodness of your heart, but at the very least because you never know when they can return the favor.

My experience: I've both provided referrals and asked for them, including now. There's nothing more disheartening about sending a polite, well-crafted message asking for 15 mins of somebody's time and not getting a response.

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AD1 is being ridiculous. Everyone is free to reach out and the referrer decides who they’d like to refer or not - this is not giving someone advantage over others.

If you understand better the job of HR and recruiters, you’ll know they are generalists that may not understand the specific qualifications for a specific role - while a referrer in that function does

You do you, but please don’t judge others who reach out for a referral or those who’d like to help one that reached out

Valid point from both @strategic program manager1 and @associate director.

I accept to give referrals to candidates I know in-person, and to “strangers” who connected on LinkedIn with verifiable profiles and show of thought and character approach to requesting referrals or doing the networking. Still, I’ll truthfully indicate if I know a person in-person or met them virtually before vouching and bidding for them.

In all other cases, I gently refer the candidates to the job application process (HR’s control) or state the fact on the need for in-person acquaintance for a referral.

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And having said the above, I’m (in this new year 2024) seeking professional connections (networks) for helpful tips and hopefully for referrals for pharma jobs in the US Northeast, including MA, PA, CT, NH, NY, NJ, RI.

I’m Canadian, and a skilled PhD scientist with 15YOE in analytical development and specialized technical/clinical/regulatory writing skills. I can demonstrate it, and I always finish the job and move to the next.

I’m so open for ideas - thnx! 🙌🏾

There will def be people who are willing to help as they may have received help in the past, but not all people

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