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Take Accenture for 185-195k. 165k is too low. All the managers I know make that
Agreed 165 way too low for the amt of responsibilities that a SM will have.
Same levels across. I think EY is stronger in strategy and weaker in tech, and Accenture is stronger in tech vs strategy broadly speaking. That has a impact on overall culture and op model and type of talent you interface with on day to day basis.
Your growth is dependent upon your team and landing spot, in addition to your own awareness of what you are great at, and what energizes you the most
Accenture, because you don't have to deal with accounting firm independence BS, and EY is the strictest out of the big 4.
Also, SM at EY is the hardest level. You should try to negotiate to 200k for that.
Or if you work with deals…
What part of EY is that and which location? Context might help
Technology practice for Coal and Mine client.
Is this for the US?? I’ve seen senior managers at EY get 25k signs on??
This is for Toronto and getting a 10k bonus required a lot of chatting.
ACN — $175 for SM seems low for EY
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Not sure the tier in Toronto - but a L6 in NY Metro would be starting at $220+ base and would most certainly have a sign on of 40k minimally.
US - NY Metro
I talked to ACN and EY recruiters today and it seems negotiation is out of discussion specially when only a week is left in joining. Ey informed they will get back to me by tomorrow. Let’s see. I will rather switch to product based.
I’m not sure if you trade stocks or options heavily. EY has that independence thing that prevents you from being able to trade a bunch of financial instruments, and they want access to your bank and brokerage accounts so they can see what you’re trading and your balances. That’s the main reason why I declined an offer from them. I treat the stock market as a side hustle. I use that income to pay for some of my bills and I won’t let a company prevent me from being able to trade without a fair compensation.
Given our bear market, just put it in index which works well big4
Take whichever is a better fit.
175k for L6 at ACN is abnormally low. That's in the ballpark of newly minted MBAs
Came in as industry L6 late last year. I did what a few contacts suggested and it worked like a charm. They'll play chicken with you but ACN will be the one to chicken out. I negotiated and they moved little bit, so I told them that it is simply not market competitive so I truly appreciate everyone's time but it's a no. A couple a days later they came back with substantially improved offer asking to reconsider.
With the insane attrition, ACN needs you more than the other way around.
Look at some recent offer data in levels to get a sense of what's realistic.
https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=PwC,Deloitte,Accenture&track=Management%20Consultant
Boom! Nice work
What country? These numbers are so low I don’t even believe them
Canada where paying right salary is a sin!!