How large do you think Trump's popular vote loss will be?

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I think it will be 6-7% win for Biden.

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1m but wins electoral college. Chaos pt 2.

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Not gonna happen.

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This isn't 2016 and that goes for both parties. The competitive advantage that allowed Trump to squeak, and I do mean by the skin of his teeth, into office isn't there anymore.

People forget that most people didn't vote FOR Trump, but AGAINST Clinton in 2016. As someone said on here earlier she was "loathed". People didn't like her. I didn't like her. And it cost her votes and invigorated people to vote for Trump. People who normally vote Democrat didn't vote at all.

That isn't there now. People don't hate Biden. He a familiar name and the Republican Party, who so carefully and relentlessly and over YEARS, went after Clinton, hasn't done anything close to crafting the same type of narrative around Biden. You see attempts on this bowl, but they seem half-assed and reaching. That "loathing" penalty doesn't exist for Biden.

It does exist for Trump who has been constantly in your face since he took office with one controversy after another, disappointment after disappointment, all while having control of all three branches. He has shed so many followers that even part of the Republican Party is telling people to vote for Biden. It's fresh in everyone's mind and people are incredibly motivated to have him gone. And those people that sat the last one out aren't going to sit this one out. We will see voters who voted for Trump sit out. Not as many that did for Clinton, but a decent amount. The enthusiasm just isn't there for Trump like it was, and the enthusiasm that's shown aren't from people you want to be associated with.

It all comes to voter turnout during a pandemic. If it's low, Biden wins by at least 4M votes and squeaks out an electoral win. Normal voting numbers? Biden wins by 8M-10M easy. Higher than normal? Biden wins in a landslide. 15M+ votes at least, a solid ass whooping. The only way Trump wins is if he gets the same luck as he had in 2016, with the same turnout in the same areas he had before, and if the voting suppression tactics work. That's it. That's the only way. And it doesn't look like it's anywhere close to were it was. 2018 showed just how motivated people were except people have been looking forward to voting against this guy for 4 years.

Like 2016, don't underestimate pissed off people, but this time it's definitely the other side of the coin.

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This is scary

We all know daddy Putin will come in last minute so it’s hard to say

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About 2% but wins the electoral college.

Hopefully the annoying celebrities who threatened to leave the country if Bush won and made the same threat before Trump won will then finally leave and never return.

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At least 5mn this time around

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It doesn’t matter.

That is like arguing that a football team won because it got more yards. Millions of people don’t vote because they know their state is a lock already.

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VP: Your speculation with zero basis.

As small as his hands

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Yuuuge

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In terms of votes or percentage?

Probably 3.5M raw votes. Percentage wise maybe 3 percent.

Definitely larger than Clinton

YUUUUUGE

6 pps: 53/47

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