I recently had a priming conversation with my boss. I told him that I’m taking the steps to look into being promoted to a senior director. His response rubbed me as if he was prepping me for a no response. Which wouldn’t surprise me.

However. My last boss once told me that if you ask for a promotion and your boss says no, you have to be prepared to leave because you’re now informed how much you are valued.

Do you buy into that? Would you take the no and plan your exit?

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Following this. Maybe have a 1:1 with your manager and document the steps you need to take. Is there something you can ask him to get to that level and document that

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Yes there are some steps I can take which I’m doing. The initial convo we had wasn’t planned but just popped up so I wasn’t fully prepared for the approach.

Make sure you have the facts on why you can’t be promoted. Maybe it’s due to budget. If that’s the case it’s out of their control. That still means likely you would want to plan your exit but at least you know the exact reasons. I say this because personally at my work we were notified frankly (after I asked) that we cannot be promoted in our current roles due to strict HR rules after a re-org/layoff. Beyond my managers control so everyone’s aware that we might all apply to other internal roles or leave if we are unhappy with this policy.

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Very good point there. I’ll have a discussion with him about the why if “no” is the answer I get.

I don’t buy into that statement. In my experience, people typically think they’re ready for a promotion much earlier than they actually are (I’ve also been that person). Depending level, promotions aren’t even primarily based on executional performance and have other factors that come into play that a lot of mid to senior talent aren’t even aware of. If you like your job and have a manager that’s willing to help you grow and stretch into the areas you need to improve, that’s more important. Additionally, transparency and exposure are key to assess as well. Are more senior leaders transparent and open with you on the promotion process? Do you know what business cases need to be made for someone at your level to be promoted? Are you in the know and exposed to key decision makers? The reason the “promotion or bounce” approach doesn’t work, is that you’ll run into the same issue no matter where you go. Promotions past director level typically take a whole other level of skills that some get stuck not understanding how to tackle.

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Great advice. Thank you for sharing. I appreciate your insight.

This is a situation where more info is needed. If it’s a budgetary issue, then that can speak to either the financial instability of the market, the organization, OR an opportunity for an employee to prove their worth by showing a clear way they could bring in new lines of business and revenue (not just saving revenue, driving in new biz). If it’s a lack of faith in the employee, or no room for promotion because of internal hires already in position, or politics, or because the employee lacks training or experience, there should be a conversation about that so they can decide clear next steps.

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I think it’s more of the opportunity for growth situation. My mentality is I’m going to become as undeniable as possible and put the company in a position to either do what is needed to recognize my worth or that will signal it’s time for me to leave.

I’d plan for your exit. For whatever reason it gives the impression that you’re not happy because of pay or title or responsibility to your boss. When layoffs arrive you’ll be on their mind. Either leave for better situation and boomerang back for a bigger paycheck/title if you really like the company.

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When I got laid off from an agency HR mentioned that they were aware that I was eager to find other cool stuff to work on or move around within the company—for me to learn new skills in other departments or put me on other clients to add a little spice to my routine; my manager interpreted it as I was “unhappy” and let me go. This is my anecdotal experience.

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